Standing to Mount

[Mark Choate]

Re: Standing to Mount

Gentlemen,

My apologies for excessive posts on this thread, but the other day I posted some solutions that I have used for this problem and endorsed the suggestions that Casey made. I also quoted our Chief of Scouts, Ronnie Tucker, (who is the finest natural horseman that I have had the honor to know), as it would relate to an item that he has used in the past to stop horses from moving out when being mounted. There was some "confusion" as to whether this would have been a period solution for said problem. Well, this past weekend, Ronnie and I were riding and the subject came up. I was mistaken as to him getting it from the Mennonites, but rather the concept for the basic device, using slip knots, came from one John S. Rarey. If you are not familiar with Mr. Rarey's work, then I think you will find this interesting. He was born in 1827 in Ohio and was known the world over for his amazing techniques. So highly regarded was Mr. Rarey's techniques that in 1862 his method was officially adopted as the official training procedure for the U. S. Army.

He is widely referred to as "the Original Horse Whisperer."

I would encourage all of you to read more on Mr. Rarey by going to this link:

http://www.rarey.com/sites/jsrarey/

Thanks, and I hope this helps!

Mark

[Outrider]

Re: Standing to Mount

I actually have some of Mr Rarey's lessons and writings on his methods printed out. For the sake of clarity Mark, I was not questioning whether or not Ronnie's method/device was a period remedy but rather I was unsure after some of the response and Larry's reply whether he was looking for period methods or not or just methods in general, which was how I also read his original post.
There are many ways to solve problems/vices, personally, I dont see any one as better than any other so long as they work. Just thought I should clear that up.

Rarey has a great method(s) for saddle training and if one didnt know better you would swear it was Parelli or someone saying it. He was way ahead of his time and widely panned for it during his period too. Many thought his ways were foolish but I think he has the last laugh now...

[Mark Choate]

Re: Standing to Mount

Good comments, Paddy.

Thanks for the clarification.

Mark

[Old-South]

Re: Standing to Mount

Has anyone tried mounting and dismounting numerous times with the horse tied to the trailer or post or other fixed object? Worked for me but the caviat being that this was not an insane horse to begin with. He just liked to "wander" while being mounted.
My 2 cents.

[Mike Ventura]

Re: Standing to Mount

Jeff -- I was once told by someone that I consider a wise horseman that all you are doing in that scenario is teaching your horse to stand still if tied to a post or trailer. They do not transfer the knowledge when not ties.

[The Egyptian Homeguard]

Re: Standing to Mount

True Mike they'll learn fast when they are tied and not... I've seen studs that act like geldings until they are wearing their"breeding" halter... Horses are smart. I guy who says a horse is dumb, has been outsmarted by it... I've been there... ;)

[Old-South]

Re: Standing to Mount

Mike,

All depends on he horse. Just a tool. Worked for me. There's also something to be said for the tree of whoa(woe).

[Outrider]

Re: Standing to Mount

"Jeff -- I was once told by someone that I consider a wise horseman that all you are doing in that scenario is teaching your horse to stand still if tied to a post or trailer. They do not transfer the knowledge when not ties. "

That has been my experience as well with tieing them to teach mounting but I do believe in tieing them for a good while and regularly as a general thing. I think that is a good practice for any horse but have readjusted a few poor attitudes by doing just that, and for some, it took only that.