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    Anyone know of a pattern for an officer's saddle cloth - not the big shabraque - the smaller saddle cloth that a lieutenant or captain might use?
    Gerald Todd
    1st Maine Cavalry
    Eos stupra si jocum nesciunt accipere.

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    Gerald,

    Have you checked with Charlie Childs on this? Might be worth the time.

    crchilds@bright.net


    regards,
    Mark
    J. Mark Choate
    7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

    "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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    • #3
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      Thanks, I sent him an email.
      Looking at the repops, I haven't seen two made or even shaped alike and they all look like mom stayed up all night sewing felt for the school play.
      Gerald Todd
      1st Maine Cavalry
      Eos stupra si jocum nesciunt accipere.

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        Yeah, and sometimes, I wonder if "mom" even knows what play the school is putting on...........

        Good luck.
        Mark
        J. Mark Choate
        7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

        "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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        • #5
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          In Dorsey and Mcpheeters book measurements are given for the 1874 and 1885 Officers Saddlecloths. There are several CW era saddlecloths shown but no good measurements on those, just overall length and width. I don't know if it would be of help, but... Good luck, Z
          [B][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="4"][I]Zack Ziarnek[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
          [email]ill6thcav@yahoo.com[/email]

          Authentic Campaigner since 1998... Go Hard or Go Home!

          "Look back at our struggle for Freedom, Trace our present day's strength to its source, And you'll find that this country's pathway to glory, Is strewn with the bones of the horse." Anonymous

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            Not a peep in response to 3 emails, and no other information's come up.
            Searching on line has turned up more trash than anything useful.
            Any mid-Atlantic museum have one of these on display?
            Gerald Todd
            1st Maine Cavalry
            Eos stupra si jocum nesciunt accipere.

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            • #7
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              Gerald,

              I just sent you a p.m. on this matter.

              regards,
              Mark
              J. Mark Choate
              7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

              "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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              • #8
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                Gerald,
                Could you please share what, if anything, you have found out?
                I found this antique auction which gives a little bit of information regarding size. What's really useful is that it's an top view of it laying flat. Click on the pictures for a larger view. http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5387336
                The saddle cloths offered here look pretty good to my eye and the pattern is supposedly copied from an original. They offer custom trim as well. For $99, they beat the pants off the $65 one listed on ebay, which definitely looks "High School" quality. They are even located in Gerald, Missouri, lol. http://www.westernartandpoetry.com/c...dleblanket.htm
                I hope this helps.
                Gary
                Gary Lee Bradford, Captain
                9th Kansas Regiment Volunteer Cavalry, Company F
                On patrol of the KS / MO border

                [COLOR="#4B0082"]In honor of my great-great uncle, Pvt. Sidney J. Hatch, 7th Tennessee Cavalry (US), Co. D, who died Sept. 23, 1863, at the age of 21. .[/COLOR]

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                  It seems to me that if a shabraque or saddle blanket was a private purchase item of officers then exact size would not be an issue. By examining original images you can clearly make out the placement of the blanket on the sides of the horse and measure to that location on your horse. Also if you know the regulation length of the Mac saddle tree, you can judge for yourself the length of the blanket by estimating, based on proportions, how far the blanket sticks out in front of and behind the tree. All you need then is a large piece of paper folded in half to draw your swallow tail. Then you sell the pattern ;D

                  Just my $.02 American which is rapidly falling in value.
                  John Clinch ~ The Texas Waddi of the "Far Flung Mess"

                  "Fighting the Texans is like walking into a den of wildcats"- Union private
                  "When a Texan fancies he'll take his chances, chances will be taken..."

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                  • #10
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                    John- Was it a private purchase item? I know uniforms were, but I thought saddles and tack were issued. I agree with your view that the pattern shouldn't be that tough to come up with and I may attempt to make my own. Lord knows, it's going to be expensive enough to change my impression from enlisted to officer, so I'll make what I can to save for that which I can't.

                    Gary
                    Gary Lee Bradford, Captain
                    9th Kansas Regiment Volunteer Cavalry, Company F
                    On patrol of the KS / MO border

                    [COLOR="#4B0082"]In honor of my great-great uncle, Pvt. Sidney J. Hatch, 7th Tennessee Cavalry (US), Co. D, who died Sept. 23, 1863, at the age of 21. .[/COLOR]

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                    • #11
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                      Officers were required to provide their own horse accouterments... That's why you see so man variations in officers saddles, Grant and Logan in Grimsleys McClellan in a Mac, Custer in at least one Jennifer and Brown (of NYSV) in an English... Z
                      [B][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="4"][I]Zack Ziarnek[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
                      [email]ill6thcav@yahoo.com[/email]

                      Authentic Campaigner since 1998... Go Hard or Go Home!

                      "Look back at our struggle for Freedom, Trace our present day's strength to its source, And you'll find that this country's pathway to glory, Is strewn with the bones of the horse." Anonymous

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