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Gents (and ladies present) here are some equine related gleanings from the Franklin/Nashville Civil War show last weekend. Today was the first chance I have had to prepare these for posting.
First, let me say the photo quaility is "crap"! I am sorry. Since the election I have been pretty much overwhelmed at work (and old age memory loss) which caused me to forget to take along my camera. As a result upon arrival at 2 a.m. Thursday night I went to Walmart and purchased one...not the best but it sufficed (barely). Anyway, between that error and not having time to make myself fully capable with the new technology (hey, I am challenged, I can't help it) resulted in some lousy photos. I am sorry. Anyway, if there is any consolation there were not alot of good items there to photograph anyway. Perhaps a sign of the times? (kinda sad)
Regardless, I am posting these here and a few more in another area of the AC for general population viewing. These and others will soon be posted on my web site....
Ken R Knopp
- Another nice Wagon saddle.....given its tree pattern and other components this is likely of a war time or earlier manufacture. These type “wagon saddles” stayed in use well into the 20th century in the military and for civilian freight wagons but their patterns evolved over time. Early ones were mostly built on English or Somerset trees and in the 1840's to the CW period, using Attackapas and Texas type trees. By the end of the 19th century wagon saddles were often made using other trees including Kilgore, Whitman and Texas variations.
-British Bit?: This bit came out of Middletown Va. I believe the pattern origins to be British although this one could be American made. This pattern called snake cheek, flower cheek, etc. was very common and popular from at least the late 18th century through the Civil War and later.
-Excellent collection of martingale hearts...These are likely all Federal but NOTE!...These were NOT an enlistedmen’s item!! But a private purchase officer’s item. Note the many variances...there are even more out there.
-The CW Show represents the first time since the war that this cannon tube associated to Pelham's Battery of Stuarts Cavalry Corps, ANV and,.... this uniform have been together since the war! The uniform including coat and trousers belong to Capt Phillip Johnston, one of Pelham's (Stuart's) artillery section commanders. He was wounded while wearing this coat which still shows the bullet hole and blood stains. The tube was in Johnston's section and later captured by Custer's cavalry at Tom's Brook in 1864 (I think I am right about this).
-Kinda Typical Federal Officers saddle....
-Really nice Forrest’s Cavalry photo grouping! Post War Reunion photo.....Although very much like another well known photo I have never seen this particular photo before. It shows some of Forrest’s other lessor known officer’s. The photo caption mis-identifies some of the names to the faces but I can clearly point out Willie Forrest, Forrest’s son (back row second from left), Maj. Kelly (seated second from left) , Dr J.B. Cowan chief surgeon (standing on far right), Capt Morton (sated far right); Capt Anderson (chief of staff (seated far left) but I am not clear on associating names to other faces.....anyone???
-Nice early bit which appears to be a variation of the M1841 Artillery. It differs from others I have seen in that it has no cross bar (lip/slobber bar) which is strange for an artillery bit as this bar was common and necessary to keep the reins from entangling with the bits/reins of the other horse. Perhaps it is a rare cavalry version of the M1841 or an officer's bit??? I do not know. The shape of the mouth piece bothers me some. It is not really "period" so I am not sure what to say....Never seen one like this.
-RARE M1872 Mountain Howitzer girth. This is the only one of these I have ever seen. In fact, perhaps the only in existence. Even R.E Dorsey’s.Ken McPheeter’s book THE AMERICAN MILITARY SADDLE 1776-1945 has only a drawing of it. An examination reveals it is simply three M1872 cavalry girths sewn together. Still, a rare bird!!
-Really strange variation of wood stirrups. Never seen these before.....they have a foot pedestal that is moveable to provide support and movement. I am not really able to understand what type application these would benefit. Its anybody’s guess.
-This Texas saddle is old but not likely war time. It has some similarities to post war catalog saddles including the creased fenders, skirts, hardware, etc. but it is likely fairly early in the catalog period. The tree is quite like many catalog era including some referred to as California saddles. The stirrups are typical CW period but could be add-ons. I do not believe it is a CW era or earlier saddle but an post war commercial pattern likely 1880's or so.
-Interesting McClellan pattern tree. It has the forged iron stirrup strap loop (not cast as were post war) so it is likely of the CW period but it is strangly, very wide in the gullet and has been recovered at some point. Not typical anything!!
-Nice but post war civilian saddle bags...although likely a post war catalog item meant to replicate or at least draw similarities to the M1858 McClellan they are somewhat bigger and have different pocket sizes and hardware.
-Patented Safety Stirrups. These are stamped with the Patent date of Sept 8, 1891. They were meant so your foot could not get hung up....yea! But,....I bet they were also very hard to keep from losing your stirrup too!
-Roman spurs: OK, some guy had these at the show and I thought I would throw a photo of them in for kicks and giggles.
- Kinda typical CW era safety stirrups. I have seen many of these before but there are approx. ONLY two - maybe three variations of these type war time era safety stirrups.
First, let me say the photo quaility is "crap"! I am sorry. Since the election I have been pretty much overwhelmed at work (and old age memory loss) which caused me to forget to take along my camera. As a result upon arrival at 2 a.m. Thursday night I went to Walmart and purchased one...not the best but it sufficed (barely). Anyway, between that error and not having time to make myself fully capable with the new technology (hey, I am challenged, I can't help it) resulted in some lousy photos. I am sorry. Anyway, if there is any consolation there were not alot of good items there to photograph anyway. Perhaps a sign of the times? (kinda sad)
Regardless, I am posting these here and a few more in another area of the AC for general population viewing. These and others will soon be posted on my web site....
Ken R Knopp
- Another nice Wagon saddle.....given its tree pattern and other components this is likely of a war time or earlier manufacture. These type “wagon saddles” stayed in use well into the 20th century in the military and for civilian freight wagons but their patterns evolved over time. Early ones were mostly built on English or Somerset trees and in the 1840's to the CW period, using Attackapas and Texas type trees. By the end of the 19th century wagon saddles were often made using other trees including Kilgore, Whitman and Texas variations.
-British Bit?: This bit came out of Middletown Va. I believe the pattern origins to be British although this one could be American made. This pattern called snake cheek, flower cheek, etc. was very common and popular from at least the late 18th century through the Civil War and later.
-Excellent collection of martingale hearts...These are likely all Federal but NOTE!...These were NOT an enlistedmen’s item!! But a private purchase officer’s item. Note the many variances...there are even more out there.
-The CW Show represents the first time since the war that this cannon tube associated to Pelham's Battery of Stuarts Cavalry Corps, ANV and,.... this uniform have been together since the war! The uniform including coat and trousers belong to Capt Phillip Johnston, one of Pelham's (Stuart's) artillery section commanders. He was wounded while wearing this coat which still shows the bullet hole and blood stains. The tube was in Johnston's section and later captured by Custer's cavalry at Tom's Brook in 1864 (I think I am right about this).
-Kinda Typical Federal Officers saddle....
-Really nice Forrest’s Cavalry photo grouping! Post War Reunion photo.....Although very much like another well known photo I have never seen this particular photo before. It shows some of Forrest’s other lessor known officer’s. The photo caption mis-identifies some of the names to the faces but I can clearly point out Willie Forrest, Forrest’s son (back row second from left), Maj. Kelly (seated second from left) , Dr J.B. Cowan chief surgeon (standing on far right), Capt Morton (sated far right); Capt Anderson (chief of staff (seated far left) but I am not clear on associating names to other faces.....anyone???
-Nice early bit which appears to be a variation of the M1841 Artillery. It differs from others I have seen in that it has no cross bar (lip/slobber bar) which is strange for an artillery bit as this bar was common and necessary to keep the reins from entangling with the bits/reins of the other horse. Perhaps it is a rare cavalry version of the M1841 or an officer's bit??? I do not know. The shape of the mouth piece bothers me some. It is not really "period" so I am not sure what to say....Never seen one like this.
-RARE M1872 Mountain Howitzer girth. This is the only one of these I have ever seen. In fact, perhaps the only in existence. Even R.E Dorsey’s.Ken McPheeter’s book THE AMERICAN MILITARY SADDLE 1776-1945 has only a drawing of it. An examination reveals it is simply three M1872 cavalry girths sewn together. Still, a rare bird!!
-Really strange variation of wood stirrups. Never seen these before.....they have a foot pedestal that is moveable to provide support and movement. I am not really able to understand what type application these would benefit. Its anybody’s guess.
-This Texas saddle is old but not likely war time. It has some similarities to post war catalog saddles including the creased fenders, skirts, hardware, etc. but it is likely fairly early in the catalog period. The tree is quite like many catalog era including some referred to as California saddles. The stirrups are typical CW period but could be add-ons. I do not believe it is a CW era or earlier saddle but an post war commercial pattern likely 1880's or so.
-Interesting McClellan pattern tree. It has the forged iron stirrup strap loop (not cast as were post war) so it is likely of the CW period but it is strangly, very wide in the gullet and has been recovered at some point. Not typical anything!!
-Nice but post war civilian saddle bags...although likely a post war catalog item meant to replicate or at least draw similarities to the M1858 McClellan they are somewhat bigger and have different pocket sizes and hardware.
-Patented Safety Stirrups. These are stamped with the Patent date of Sept 8, 1891. They were meant so your foot could not get hung up....yea! But,....I bet they were also very hard to keep from losing your stirrup too!
-Roman spurs: OK, some guy had these at the show and I thought I would throw a photo of them in for kicks and giggles.
- Kinda typical CW era safety stirrups. I have seen many of these before but there are approx. ONLY two - maybe three variations of these type war time era safety stirrups.
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