artillery ordinance wagon

[cplchrisv]

I recently purchased a period correct covered wagon the will be used with my artillery unit. I was wondering what the correct paint colors would be for an artillery ordinance wagon. Are they the same green as the carriage and limber or something else



cpl chris vukovich
1st Missouri Light Artillery Co.k

[CJDaley]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Are they the same green as the carriage and limber or something else

Welcome to the forums! It think it's great someone is going to be bringing this important part of artillery history to the field. Congrats on your choice to do so.

I believe the color is the same, I would contact Chickamauga Battlefield as I believe they are the owners of the only existing battery wagon from the war and if memory serves (I saw it in 2005) it is indeed the same color as the gun carriage.

[tmattimore]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Ordnance and QMD dept wagons would have a blue body with red running gear. They had a double tarp inner one blank and the outer would be stenciled in large letters with the type of ordnance it was carrying and who it belonged to ie. corps, division or park.
Check with FT. Union NPS or Harpers Ferry NPS, they may, if you beg, give you a paint number.
Tom

[CJDaley]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Ordnance and QMD dept wagons would have a blue body with red running gear. They had a double tarp inner one blank and the outer would be stenciled in large letters with the type of ordnance it was carrying and who it belonged to ie. corps, division or park.
Check with FT. Union NPS or Harpers Ferry NPS, they may, if you beg, give you a paint number.
Tom

Thanks Tom, I posted that before my morning run so I wasn't awake and forgot that the ordnance wasn't part of the artillery.

BTW: Has anyone ever reproduced a battery wagon?

[mladair]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

BTW: Has anyone ever reproduced a battery wagon?

Loomis Battery (Michigan) has one that I saw this summer at a live shoot. The Paulson Brothers in Wisconsin may also have one as well.

[CJDaley]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Loomis Battery (Michigan) has one that I saw this summer at a live shoot. The Paulson Brothers in Wisconsin may also have one as well.

Thanks for the picture of the repro wagon pard!

I'd love to look at that close up, those wagons were equipped with everything you needed to repair a carriage and get it back into the field quickly. Jacks, spare parts, new wheels, tools...I always compare the battery wagon to pit crew at a NASCAR race.

Glad to see someone is doing more than just the standard arty interpretation these days.

[Cfarrell]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Take a look at this site Mr. Vukovich and Daley.

http://www.historicalordnanceworks.com/wagons.htm

Regards,

[Matt Woodburn]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Stone's River National Battlefield has a battery wagon or it may be a travelling forge - I forget. It's in their covered artillery park and not on display for the general public. Contact Ranger Jim Lewis there for info, pics, etc.

[Danny]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

...BTW: Has anyone ever reproduced a battery wagon?

Our Battery Commander has a battery wagon, and we more commonly bring his functioning traveling Forge "A" - things we bring to the field when we've been able to justify the work it takes to bring them there.

In that regard we believe that rifles and such were also likely carried in the battery wagon, 2-banded Enfields or smooth bore muskets, carbines, and those short artillery (1832 pattern) swords everybody today rushes to deny were ever used in "flying" artillery. We are comfortable in occasionally using such guns and swords in reenactment, to post our own flank guards (when infantry was scarce) or the swords available nearby to mark the wheel position for roll-back to firing position, or just available to swipe brush etc.

Dan Wykes
2nd Ill. Batt. G

[vamick]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

In that regard we believe that rifles and such were also likely carried in the battery wagon, 2-banded Enfields or smooth bore muskets, carbines, and those short artillery (1832 pattern) swords everybody today rushes to deny were ever used in "flying" artillery. We are comfortable in occasionally using such guns and swords in reenactment, to post our own flank guards (when infantry was scarce) or the swords available nearby to mark the wheel position for roll-back to firing position, or just available to swipe brush etc.

Dan Wykes
2nd Ill. Batt. G

BULLY for yall sir!!! artillery ESPECIALLY horse artillery were not armed like a cpmpany of infantry but NEITHER were they 'nekkid'!! a feller feels mighty worthless standing picket with a willow switch:D...did your battery construct the wagon or forge?? we've done a cassion ( a complete winters effort every weekend, and then some) with plans for a wagon and forge ...which are probably on hold ( our articfer art tis cerferer...blacksmith and machnist! is on hiatus)

[Danny]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

...did your battery construct the wagon or forge??

Gary -

Don't have a pic of the wagon but the forge you see attached here was made by our unit commander per 1849 U.S. Army specifications and plans.

- Dan Wykes

[vamick]

Re: artillery ordinance wagon

Gary -

Don't have a pic of the wagon but the forge you see attached here was made by our unit commander per 1849 U.S. Army specifications and plans.

- Dan Wykes

AWWWW!! that looks excellant!! and thats not something ya see much at all out there...hopefully "someday" we'll get one of those done. I was surprised how 'standardized' and common sensical the frame work was for the cassion we built, very much like a limber except longer dimensionaly

Ishouldnt have been suprised, from what Ive seen leafing through the prints the forge has similar frame rails)..the devil is in the details as they say which yer commander probably knows!:D we found a coupla variances and places were the prints were slightly off or incomplete on iron work dimensional details. Thats a fine forge!!