12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

[sedlakchristopher]

Friends,

A search of this forum and other internet sites/libraries have not been successful in my quest.

I posted another topic here about the authenticity of having a stencil on a limber chest saying "Light 12 Pdr Gun"

We came up with two photos, one of a young black soldier guarding a Napoleon with limber stencilled and the second from a distance on an unknown battlefield from a distance.

Does anyone have a close or closer-up photo or image of this particular stencil.

We are considering putting the stencil on our limber and I am going to hand-cut them so they match the original with all it's curiosities in design; modern stencils aren't even close in style.

ANY HELP will be greatly appreciated!

HAPPY 2008!

Your obedient servant,
Chris Sedlak



Late edit: here's the other post if you are interested. Full citation for those two photos I mentioned above.

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8432&highlight=limber+stencil

[cannoneer]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

I believe that Rock Trail Ordnance has the stencils. I know that they make the ammunition chests that they make.

Respectfully,
Tedd

[FranklinGuardsNYSM]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

Chris -

Attached detail views of the stencils from the images in question.

[vamick]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

This is hard to see...but..to me it looks as tho the stencil on the cannon trail has been applied 'over' the trail in other words marked on the photo its self..??? the reason I say this is to my eyes the stencil seems to cover over details of at least the top prolong hook, as well as over the trail's rounded edge ...does anybody see what Im seeing ??? Ive never heard of a trail being stenciled and it seems rather redundant to do so..unless, that trail was broken and replaced with a spare??...still redundant since (to my knowledge) it would simply be replaced with a #2 carriage trail...???

[Roger Hansen]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!



The stencil 'style' is "Roman" which was the most common of the period. However, those on the limbers you pictured are in italics !

This was not necessarily rare - see the ammo box above. I copied the italic "Macon Arsenal" (on side of the box) on repros I made 30 yrs ago.

You can make your own stencils with the right drafting tools (Leroy letter guide, etc) that gives you the necessary italic angle.

Roger Hansen

[3rdUSRedleg]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!




My guess is markings are used on the trail for indentification of Battery assigned for transportation, ect. note the forge in background is marked as well.
Love these pictures thoe!!!

[sedlakchristopher]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

Thanks to all for their input! and posting of photos!

Mr. Hermann,
Thank you for the images.
The top one looks like the one I have with the negro soldier guarding it in front, however, you were able to scan it and blow it up a little better than I was able to... thank you for the technology :)

Mr. Mitchell,
I believe the bottom photo Mr. Hermann posted was actually of a limber ammunition box and not a trail with the wheel-guard visible.
My first impression was the locking mechanism and metal plate on a limber box. My eyes are going though...

Good posts gents!
Thanks again.

Chris Sedlak

[vamick]

Re: 12 pdr. Limber Stencil Photo Needed!

Thanks to all for their input! and posting of photos!
Mr. Mitchell,
I believe the bottom photo Mr. Hermann posted was actually of a limber ammunition box and not a trail with the wheel-guard visible.
My first impression was the locking mechanism and metal plate on a limber box. My eyes are going though...

Good posts gents!
Thanks again.

Chris Sedlak

AH! I think I see what you mean now..its very grainey, like those trick computer pictures that were all the rage in the mid 90's I couldnt see them at first either!:D