1842 Austrian Carbine lanyard

[10thKyScout]

Greeting everyone
I just purchased an 1842 Austrian carbine, with percussion conversion 853 on the lock plate. My question is that type of Carbine lanyard was used for this weapon? I am in Iraq right now so my only source of research is online and I keep coming up with blanks or reference only on the slide and ring (which the gun has). I don’t want to use the incorrect type since I am working on a higher level of standards and I am portraying a Confederate Cavalry (with a horse) in the Western Theater when I am on R & R.


Thank you for your time.
Jeff Thompson

[fortdonelsonrelics]

Re: 1842 Austrian Carbine lanyard

The only image I've seen this weapon in was of two Federal soldiers and the were using common leather carbine slings. As for confederate, I would guess that it's the same.

John Walsh

[ACo.]

Re: 1842 Austrian Carbine lanyard

Lanyard? Hmmmm.... The Europeans used a similar strap and snap hook to that issued to the US and Cs cavalrymen.

Also, take into consideration that the Austro-Hungarian carbines brought to the North America were used by Federal, not Southern cavalry.

[fortdonelsonrelics]

Re: 1842 Austrian Carbine lanyard

Actually - Confederate use has been documented and a few have shown up with the appropriate Isaacs and Campbell mark. Granted most all we know that were brought over were sent to Freemont's Cavalry in Missouri, but there is evidence suggesting that some were brought over for Southern use as well. Another misnomer often disimenated is that they had to have a ramrod channel to have been brought here, that too has been retracted based on images showing soldiers carrying these without ramrods and carrying the ramrod seperately. Granted, possilby the exception than the rule.

Jeff, let me refer you to North South's Civil War Trader Vol. 35 No. 4 2011 which has indepth article with references on the subject of these weapons, which incidentally are now referred too as Austrian M1851 Carbines.

John Walsh

Lanyard? Hmmmm.... The Europeans used a similar strap and snap hook to that issued to the US and Cs cavalrymen.

Also, take into consideration that the Austro-Hungarian carbines brought to the North America were used by Federal, not Southern cavalry.

[10thKyScout]

Re: 1842 Austrian Carbine lanyard

John Walsh and Thomas Pare Hern

Thank you for the response's, I will use the Federal style for the carbine. I just wasn't sure if the weapons were shipped with the carbine lanyard as an accessory from the country of origin.

Jeff Thompson