Federal Impression

[Eric Tipton]

Bob:

Any word on which regiment the Federals will portray at the event? I checked the event web site and saw the info on the Confederates, but haven't seen any specifics on Federals. We are very interested in attending and like to put together information prior to the event for first person. Thanks!

[ohioyankee]

Re: Federal Impression

Assult on Allegheny is looking like a great event. I also plan to do federal. Any information on the regiment portrayed or first person information would be appreciated. Thank you.

[Duff]

Re: Federal Impression

Is there any news on this subject?

[BobDenton37thVA]

Re: Federal Impression

Eric, and all,

Scot Buffington has already suggested a target portrayal for the event. I'll have him post the information as soon as it is formalized.

Regards,
Bob D.

[Eric Tipton]

Re: Federal Impression

Excellent Bob. Thanks. Looking forward to the event.

[Duff]

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I have done some reading on the Battle of Camp Allegheny, and the only Federal units that I have heard in any of the accounts are the 25th and 32nd Ohio, and the 9th and 13th Indiana. An OR from the Col. of the 25th can be found Here: http://www.wvculture.org/HiStory/civ...ountain03.html

The only unit I am familier with is the 9th. They were photographed later in the war, but because this event is still "Early War" those photographes are probably irrelevent.

[Duff]

Re: Federal Impression

Eric et al,

It was announced on the other forum that we will portray the 9th Indiana.

The discussion can be found here: http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=14034

[paulcalloway]

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That's good news Duff. I'm planning to come out and will see if I can get some of the GHTI to come as well. The Indiana connection is a great incentive.

[LibertyHallVols]

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Question on the Federal Uniform Regs:
There is a lot of info on the site: http://pslcampaign.ning.com/page/ass...heny-federal-1

However, it is hard to discern what is "perferred" versus "accepted" or "allowed". For someone trying to meet the "ideal impression" for this event, what is the guidance/order of preference?

Of particular interest:
1) Coat (Sack, Frock, or Jacket?)
2) Hat (Cap or Hardee hat?)
3) Accoutrements - In particular, what sort of scabbard is preferred for the Enfield? "No Rivet" US or the Brit pattern?

Thanks!

[Shockoe Hill Cats]

Re: Federal Impression

I have done some reading on the Battle of Camp Allegheny, and the only Federal units that I have heard in any of the accounts are the 25th and 32nd Ohio, and the 9th and 13th Indiana.

I also have been doing extensive research more particularly on the Confederate impression, 31st Virginia Regiment. However, this event requires a general knowledge of the battles, regiments involved, land, etc.

You've forgotten the 2d Virginia Regiment which totally caught me off guard because a Wheeling, W.Va. soldier kept referring to its involved from the Federal point-of-view. Interestingly enough, two 2d Regiments of Virginia Infantry were at Allegheny Mountain, both in the in U.S. and C.S.A. armies and had engaged each other.

If you are portraying the 2d (U.S.), my source has said that they were well-uniformed.

Yours in friendly research,

[LibertyHallVols]

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Bumping up my question. Thanks!

Question on the Federal Uniform Regs:
There is a lot of info on the site: http://pslcampaign.ning.com/page/ass...heny-federal-1

However, it is hard to discern what is "perferred" versus "accepted" or "allowed". For someone trying to meet the "ideal impression" for this event, what is the guidance/order of preference?

Of particular interest:
1) Coat (Sack, Frock, or Jacket?)
2) Hat (Cap or Hardee hat?)
3) Accoutrements - In particular, what sort of scabbard is preferred for the Enfield? "No Rivet" US or the Brit pattern?

Thanks!

[Shockoe Hill Cats]

Re: Federal Impression

For you Federals, there's a nice descriptive account by Indiana soldier, David Steveson, in Indiana's Roll of Honor on the action on Allegheny Mountain. I'd highly suggest taking the time to read it. The West Virginia Archives and History has it posted here:

http://www.wvculture.org/history/civ...ountain04.html

Sláinte!

[Duff]

Re: Federal Impression

Question on the Federal Uniform Regs:
There is a lot of info on the site: http://pslcampaign.ning.com/page/ass...heny-federal-1

However, it is hard to discern what is "perferred" versus "accepted" or "allowed". For someone trying to meet the "ideal impression" for this event, what is the guidance/order of preference?

Of particular interest:
1) Coat (Sack, Frock, or Jacket?)
2) Hat (Cap or Hardee hat?)
3) Accoutrements - In particular, what sort of scabbard is preferred for the Enfield? "No Rivet" US or the Brit pattern?

Thanks!

I would like to know the answer to this as well. Re-bump.

[paulcalloway]

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Unfortunately the communication just hasn't been there for this event. I've reconsidered.

[Pvt Schnapps]

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There's a photograph of soldiers of the 12th Indiana in 1861 at:

http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2Fdc008&CISOPTR=190&DMSCALE=50.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMOLDSCALE=4.07056&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMTHUMB=1&REC=17&DMROTATE=0&x=40&y=51

This shows the men in both frocks and sack coats with light blue trousers.

There's an illustration of the 9th Indiana a year later at:

http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2Fdc008&CISOPTR=170&DMSCALE=25&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMX=97&DMY=23&DMTEXT=&DMTHUMB=1&REC=5&DMROTATE=0&x=466&y=309

This shows the men in sack coats with pale trousers.

My reading of the event regs -- which appear to cobble together advice from a couple of sources, which might explain the confusion -- indicates that the organizers prefer sack coats, will accept frock coats or state jackets but not later U.S. uniform jackets, want light blue trousers on the enlisted men, and either forage caps or slouch hats (uniform or civilian, the latter preferably black).

That mix would seem appropriate and easy enough to figure out. The only thing I would take exception to is the preference for issue shirts since I don't believe the government was able to get enough of these out in '61 to meet the demand. But that's just my opinion.

What is it that folks find confusing?