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    By ERASMUS H. JORDAN serving 5th Reg Militia during the evacuation of Atlanta.

    "Under the burden of a ten pound musket, powder and bullet pouch, knapsack and blanket roll together with the rapid pace, the troops grew tired and began to discard non essentials. The only thing which I thought that I could discard was the extra suit of clothes which my mother had made. The suit had been used very little; I did not wish to throw it away. The one I had on was good too, only it had become soiled from the mud in the trenches. A good washing would make it good as new. I did not like to throw it away either.
    Jordan Roberts

    Widow Makers Mess
    Red Clay Volunteers

  • #2
    Re: Another Milita Account

    Us feds might be marching but those cornfeds best be running!!!:)
    [SIZE=0]PetePaolillo
    ...ILUS;)[/SIZE]

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    • #3
      Re: Another Milita Account

      Pete,

      All the Confederates were "running" with Stumpy Bell Hood into Middle Tennessee at that particular time. Do you mean the lowly Georgia Militia? They were very different than regular Confederate military units.
      Herb Coats
      Armory Guards &
      WIG

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      • #4
        Re: Another Milita Account

        Originally posted by Coatsy View Post
        Pete,

        All the Confederates were "running" with Stumpy Bell Hood into Middle Tennessee at that particular time. Do you mean the lowly Georgia Militia? They were very different than regular Confederate military units.
        :tounge_sm...This Billy Yank sometimes has trouble telling the differnce as I am just a lowly private. A traitor is a traitor...just a little teasing.....According to a letter written by Governor Brown February 17, 1865, after recounting the destruction wrought by Sherman:
        In these misfortunes Georgia has been taunted by some of the public journals of other States because her people did not drive back and destroy the enemy. Those who do us this injustice fail to state the well-known fact that of all the tens of thousands of veteran infantry, including most of the vigor and manhood of the State, which she had furnished for the Confederate service, but a single regiment, the Georgia regulars, of about 300 effective men, was permitted to be upon her soil during the march of General Sherman from her northeast border to the city of Savannah, and that gallant regiment was kept upon one of our islands most of the time and not permitted to unite with those who met the enemy. Nor were the places of our absent sons filled by troops from other States. One brigade of Confederate troops was sent by the President from North Carolina, which reached Georgia after her capital was in possession of the enemy.For eight months the Confederate reserves, reserve militia, detailed men, exempts, and most State officers, civil as well as military, had kept the field almost constantly, participating in every important fight from Kenesaw to Honey Hill. If the sons of Georgia under arms in other States had been permitted to meet the foe upon her own soil, without other assistance, General Sherman's army could never have passed from the mountains to the seaboard."

        above sited fromhttp://www.scv674.org/SH-13.htm
        [SIZE=0]PetePaolillo
        ...ILUS;)[/SIZE]

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        • #5
          The Joe Brown Census

          I found this while looking around for something else. I hope it can help someone develop their Fir Per Militia and possible civilian roles. If it has been shared elsewhere I apologize for the Redux. Cheers All.....

          http://www.woodward-geiger.com/pdf_files/joe_brown.pdf
          [SIZE=0]PetePaolillo
          ...ILUS;)[/SIZE]

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          • #6
            Re: Another Milita Account

            From Sam Wadkins Co. Aytch


            OLD JOE BROWN'S PETS

            By way of grim jest, and a fitting burlesque to tragic scenes, or, rather,
            to the thing called "glorious war," old Joe Brown, then Governor of
            Georgia, sent in his militia. It was the richest picture of an army I
            ever saw. It beat Forepaugh's double-ringed circus. Every one was
            dressed in citizen's clothes, and the very best they had at that time.
            A few had double-barreled shotguns, but the majority had umbrellas and
            walking-sticks, and nearly every one had on a duster, a flat-bosomed
            "biled" shirt, and a plug hat; and, to make the thing more ridiculous,
            the dwarf and the giant were marching side by side; the knock-kneed by
            the side of the bow-legged; the driven-in by the side of the drawn-out;
            the pale and sallow dyspeptic, who looked like Alex. Stephens, and who
            seemed to have just been taken out of a chimney that smoked very badly,
            and whose diet was goobers and sweet potatoes, was placed beside the
            three hundred-pounder, who was dressed up to kill, and whose looks seemed
            to say, "I've got a substitute in the army, and twenty negroes at home
            besides--h-a-a-m, h-a-a-m." Now, that is the sort of army that old Joe
            Brown had when he seceded from the Southern Confederacy, declaring that
            each state was a separate sovereign government of itself; and, as old
            Joe Brown was an original secessionist, he wanted to exemplify the grand
            principles of secession, that had been advocated by Patrick Henry,
            John Randolph, of Roanoke, and John C. Calhoun, in all of whom he was a
            firm believer. I will say, however, in all due deference to the Georgia
            militia and old Joe Brown's pets, that there was many a gallant and noble
            fellow among them.
            [SIZE=0]PetePaolillo
            ...ILUS;)[/SIZE]

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            • #7
              Re: Another Milita Account

              A few had double-barreled shotguns, but the majority had umbrellas and
              walking-sticks,


              I've always enjoyed that discription. Reckon' I'll leave the shotgun at home and just bring the umbrella. Although I didn't seem them listed in the regs.
              Eric N. Harley-Brown
              Currently known to associate with the WIG/AG


              "It has never been fully realized, nor appreciated by the people of the North-the great part in preserving the Union, the brave, loyal,and patriotic Union men, in the mountainous parts of the Southern states, rendered" - Orderly Sgt. Silas P. Woodall (2nd grt. grnd...) member of "Kennemers Union Scouts & Guides"-organized in Woodville, Alabama 1863.

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              • #8
                Re: The Joe Brown Census

                http://www.woodward-geiger.com/pdf_files/joe_brown.pdf[/QUOTE]

                Scrolling through the roster and seeing all those with ages in the 40's and 50's (saw one guy who was almost 60) means that for once at an event I will be truly authentic on all accounts! I wonder if those boys had AARP cards too!
                David Parent

                The Cracker Mess
                MLK Mess
                Black Hat Boys
                WIG

                Veterans would tell of Sherman's ordering a flanking movement and instructing a subordinate how to report his progress: "See here Cox, burn a few barns occasionally, as you go along. I can't understand those signal flags, but I know what smoke means"

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                • #9
                  Re: The Joe Brown Census

                  Your right thats why I am doing the south for this one. See you there.
                  Doc
                  Jim "Doc" Bruce
                  War means fightn and fightn means killn.
                  L 'audace, l 'audace, Toujours l 'audace.
                  Every man must know his limitations.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another Milita Account

                    I am NOT almost 60. I am ONLY 59.
                    Tom Dodson
                    Co. A 11th Ga Militia
                    Tom Dodson

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another Milita Account

                      I helped a friend all dud'ed up in my militia / civilian solider (my GGGG was 1st FL in 58-59') yesterday at a period "fashion" show and afterwards an older gentleman pulled me aside and was intrigued by my repop double barrel percussion shotgun. I had faux paper shells in my pocket. He was a fouler w/ the antique scattergun his WoC. I showed him my paper shotgun round and he told in the period brass tubular shells which didn't go into the gun with a primer as today but rather used in place of a paper tube like a period .58 cartridge with a brass one. I would assume the brass tube was then reusable. Anyone ever run across these or know more ? I have not.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Another Milita Account

                        Chris,

                        Dave S. has a wealth of knowledge about civilian shotguns and their application towards military use. Let's see if he'll pipe in about cartridges.

                        Double P, the "Co. Aytch" reference is not lost on me. In typical Watkins style he plays on the sterotypes regarding the militia. But sterotypes do have basis on reality. If you see someone with an umbrella don't be surprised. Gov Brown has two rounds where his 'army' was enlisted into Confederate service. So by 1864 he had the stout and mature men mixed in with the youngsters defending Georiga's borders in addition to the AoT. Well before JBH led the AoT to disaster.

                        And remember folks registratoin and payments are due September 30th. Don't be left out!
                        Herb Coats
                        Armory Guards &
                        WIG

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another Milita Account

                          Marse Crow:

                          I'm a little flumoxed by your tale of scatterguns, but I will try to light the lamp of knowledge. The only common breech-loading, metallic cartridge shotgun in use before and during the war were imported French weapons that used the E. LeFaucheux patent pinfire primer (much like the tens of thousands of French/Belgian E. LeFaucheux revolvers imported by the Federals for cavalry use). After the war, the double-barrel, external hammer shotgun was modernized with all-brass, or brass base and paper body, central primed shells.

                          Pinfire shotguns did see limited use in the South before the war and the fired shell casing may be reprimed and reloaded a couple of times if the owner (or Soldier) is desparate. While it not a difficult task to recover and save fired pinfire shells if one is hunting dismounted, it is nearly impossible if one is reloading on horseback or moving rapidly on foot in battle. About 99% of the shotguns that saw military use in the war were either single or double barrel, percussion, muzzleloading models. Hope that my rambling explanation helps.

                          Your pard,

                          Dave Stieghan
                          aka, Blustering Blunderbuss
                          High Private, Company B, People's Committee to Exterminate Foragers
                          David Stieghan
                          aka, DBAR1918

                          US Army Infantry Branch Historian,
                          Fort Benning, Georgia

                          Former Regular Army Field Artillery Caption, Disabled
                          Costumed Interpreter since 1973

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