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**chaplain** · 10-13-2009, 11:10 AM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Well, I'm a guest of the possum skinners mess. I don't know how many of us will make up the company. I'm guessing most are from Georgia. I'm driving down from Virginia.

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 10-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Gentlemen, Mr. Hancock should be sending me an e-mail list anytime now. As soon as he does I will be sending out a correspondence to everyone with any specific information and a listing of the NCO's and officers. It appears that we will have a full company. Please feel free to contact me here if there are any issues. Oh by the way I will be your First Sgt. I am very much looking forward to talking to everyone soon.
Take care,

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 10-13-2009, 01:47 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by chaplain View Post

Well, I'm a guest of the possum skinners mess. I don't know how many of us will make up the company. I'm guessing most are from Georgia. I'm driving down from Virginia.

Mr. Kimmer, you are a very welcomed guest, it appears there will be several of us present in this company. As far as state ratios I belive the Alabamians have the lead. With us Tenneseeans a close second.

**chaplain** · 10-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by Mtn.Guerilla View Post

Mr. Kimmer, you are a very welcomed guest, it appears there will be several of us present in this company. As far as state ratios I belive the Alabamians have the lead. With us Tenneseeans a close second.

Well thanks so much. I've been looking forward to this event for some time. What part of TN are you from? I have family in Lookout Mtn.

And, is there anything that's not on the bummers website, that is pertinent to the militia (or Hancock's Company specifically) that we should know before we arrive?

**Ken Cornett** · 10-13-2009, 08:48 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Email lists have been sent to all but two parties and all companies. Still working on a few others.

**chaplain** · 10-17-2009, 12:19 AM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

So, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865

http://books.google.com/books?id=mtZmdcF3Jn0C&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=11th+GA+state+guards+columbus&source=bl&ots=TmuX3Z8mc_&sig=9WxPtovEIPV8aQ1AIpQbiBL8TZA&hl=en&ei=CjrSSqiINY-alAeW9cGTAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865 by Charles Jones Edgeworth, first published in 1909, is a rare manuscript, the original residing in one of the great libraries of the world. This book is a reproduction of that original, which has been scanned and cleaned by state-of-the-art publishing tools for better readability and enhanced appreciation. Restoration Editors' mission is to bring long out of print manuscripts back to life. Some smudges, annotations or unclear text may still exist, due to permanent damage to the original work. We believe the literary significance of the text justifies offering this reproduction, allowing a new generation to appreciate it.

And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:

http://www.scvcamp1346.org/cemeterylist/greenwood_b.htm

Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 10-17-2009, 10:38 AM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by chaplain View Post

So, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865

http://books.google.com/books?id=mtZmdcF3Jn0C&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=11th+GA+state+guards+columbus&source=bl&ots=TmuX3Z8mc_&sig=9WxPtovEIPV8aQ1AIpQbiBL8TZA&hl=en&ei=CjrSSqiINY-alAeW9cGTAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865 by Charles Jones Edgeworth, first published in 1909, is a rare manuscript, the original residing in one of the great libraries of the world. This book is a reproduction of that original, which has been scanned and cleaned by state-of-the-art publishing tools for better readability and enhanced appreciation. Restoration Editors' mission is to bring long out of print manuscripts back to life. Some smudges, annotations or unclear text may still exist, due to permanent damage to the original work. We believe the literary significance of the text justifies offering this reproduction, allowing a new generation to appreciate it.

And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:

http://www.scvcamp1346.org/cemeterylist/greenwood_b.htm

Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?

You are correct Co. E was primarily men from Stewart Co.That's a big topic ,sending you a PM.
Thanks,

**Half Rations** · 10-19-2009, 07:24 AM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by chaplain View Post

So, does anyone know exactly who we will be? Georgia in the War lists three units: 11th Inf Batt GA State Guard, 11th Inf Regt GA State Guard, 11th Regt GA State Troops. All different commanding officers are named:

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865

http://books.google.com/books?id=mtZmdcF3Jn0C&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=11th+GA+state+guards+columbus&source=bl&ots=TmuX3Z8mc_&sig=9WxPtovEIPV8aQ1AIpQbiBL8TZA&hl=en&ei=CjrSSqiINY-alAeW9cGTAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Georgia in the War, 1861-1865 by Charles Jones Edgeworth, first published in 1909, is a rare manuscript, the original residing in one of the great libraries of the world. This book is a reproduction of that original, which has been scanned and cleaned by state-of-the-art publishing tools for better readability and enhanced appreciation. Restoration Editors' mission is to bring long out of print manuscripts back to life. Some smudges, annotations or unclear text may still exist, due to permanent damage to the original work. We believe the literary significance of the text justifies offering this reproduction, allowing a new generation to appreciate it.

And yet, for the weekend we will be "militia"- a term not used in the book. Was this a general term? According to the info posted on this link, Company E (11th GA Militia- Joe Brown's Pets) was formed of men from Stewart County:

http://www.scvcamp1346.org/cemeterylist/greenwood_b.htm

Can anyone bring clarity to the militia/state guard/state troops issue?

We will be portaying the 11th Regiment Militia, 4th Brigade, Georgia Militia Division. It has no conections with the three units listed. I will dig up more info but they are either part of Georgias attempt to have its own army or Militia units before the 1864 militia reorganization in Georgia.

**chaplain** · 10-28-2009, 06:31 AM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

The Preface to Joe Brown's Pets answers my question with precision:

Joe Brown's Pets

http://books.google.com/books?id=VY9iw4GzIGwC&pg=PP1&dq=joe+brown%27s+pets#v=onepage&q=&f=false

At the beginning of the Civil War, Georgia ranked third among the Confederate states in manpower resources, behind only Virginia and Tennessee. With an arms-bearing population somewhere between 120,000 and 130,000 white males between the ages of 16 and 60, this resource became an object of a great struggle between Joseph Brown, governor of Georgia, and Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy. Brown advocated a strong state defense, but as the war dragged on Davis applied more pressure for more soldiers from Georgia. In December 1863, the state's general assembly reorganized the state militia and it became known as Joe Brown's Pets. Civil War historians William Scaife and William Bragg have written not only the first history of the Georgia Militia during the Civil War, but have produced the definitive history of this militia. Using original documents found in the Georgia Department of Archives and History that are too delicate for general public access, Scaife and Bragg were granted special permission to research the material under the guidance of an archivist and conducted under tightly controlled conditions of security and preservation control.

**David Mitchell Norton** · 10-28-2009, 01:37 PM

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Once I get a chance, I will Post page Images From "Joe Brown's Pets." The exact muster roll is listed as well as officers.

J.C. was right on with the preface. It briefly explains (supported in later chapters) how the General Assembly of GA approved the reorganization of various militia units (such as the ones previously mentioned) on the 14th December, 1863. Thus the GA militia was reorganized into a division of 4 brigades, each consisting of 3 regiments.

If you cannot wait to take a look at the page image, it is all coming from Appendix 4 Roster of Georgia Militia. For Company E it lists a total of 28 privates, 3 NCOs, and 2 Captains from the time period before and up until Griswoldville...

Just to add a little to what Jordan said,

Company E's break down is:

1st Division-Georgia Militia:Commanded by Major General Gustavus W. Smith

4th Brigade-Georgia Militia:Commanded by Brigadier General Henry Kent McCay

11th Regiment: Commanded by Colonel William T. Toole

Company E: Commanded by Captain Charles C. Humbler & Captain C.A. Farwell

I would assume that this is still relatively accurate muster roll for the time period we are portraying.

Appendix 4 lists company E as having been raised from Stewart County.

One last thing, (though slightly irrelevant to bummers.) Company E would sustain the highest casualties in the regiment during the later battle of Griswoldville (14-15 Killed/Wounded.) :(

Hope this puts some useful info out there and helps answer some questions.

Anxiously awaiting 9 p.m. of November 13th!!!!!!

David Norton

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 10-28-2009, 03:10 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Thanks for the post David. All of this is exactly why I had suggested getting a copy of JB'S Pets, it really helps with insight into the company,and gives you a feel for what we're doing.
Take care,

**DBAR1918** · 10-29-2009, 07:19 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Gents:

If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.

Dave
aka, an OLD militiaman

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 11-02-2009, 05:32 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by DBAR1918 View Post

Gents:

If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.

Dave
aka, an OLD militiaman

Thanks that is a very valid point, and the common history of the county most definately would be a great topic, for first person discussion. Even if you are portraying a teenager, the are stories that most likely would have been passed on to you.

Here's a link to one account:http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/mil...an/dec1835.txt

**Mtn.Guerilla** · 11-02-2009, 05:36 PM

Re: Co. E 11th Georgia

Originally posted by DBAR1918 View Post

Gents:

If you are portraying an older militiaman rather than a teenager, one of the possible topics would be the 2nd Creek War, fought largely in Stewart County, Georgia (not to be confused with the contemporary 2nd Seminole War in Florida). Even if you did not "remove" to the county until after the war ended in 1837, you would know the stories and perhaps were exposed to the land while stationed there from the many companies from other Georgia counties who participated. Search for "Stewart County in the Creek War", Forts Clark and McCreary, the massacre at Roanoke, and the Battle of Sheperd's Plantation in 1836. I'm working with groups at Fort Benning to get an archaeological testing accomplished of the site of Fort Twiggs located on Upatoi Creek just off Main Post. These would be big doin's for a rural community still talked about 28 years later.

Dave
aka, an OLD militiaman

Thanks Dave, that is a very valid point, the common history of the county most definately would be a great topic, for first person discussion. Even if you are portraying a teenager, these are stories that most likely would have been passed on to you.

Here's a link to one account: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ga/mil...an/dec1835.txt

Some info on the Battle of Shepards Plantation, etc: http://www.exploresouthernhistory.com/GAShepherds.html

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