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I think this thread has digressed and missed the initial point and intention, rather unfortunately.
I am by know means advocating anyone, especially my men, purposely getting captured. So let's get the intentional white flags and the dropping arms and running to the other side visions, out of the discussion.
This event (if it is like BGR) is about survival, under challenging physical and mental conditions. It is also, or became about relating to those around you whether it was your messmates, your company, your batallion, officers or possibly the enemy. As such, this relating, produced the best first person I experienced at any event. You can relate to all of those very easily, with the exception of the adversary, whether pursuer or pursuee. I was captured at Outpost under no fault of my own and not intentionally. We were about to be cut-off, and although I quickly informed our officers of the company (Ox) closing in behind us unseen to all else, we were ordered to stand tight and try to repel that advance with barely more than a section. We followed orders, and me and my platoon were all overrun and captured. The resulting FP and experience were rewarding and more period than most I have had out in the field over the years.
For those who know me, realize if at all possible I dont' advocate anything unauthentic. Rather, as authentic and challenging as possible, (and I also know that turns some people off as well.) That is why we are here. I harbor no hard feelings, because I honestly this has digressed of point and intention. To purposely, and unrealistically, do something to get captured is unauthentic; I certainly agree. However, the POW aspect is IMHO undrerepresented at most events. There were POW's. To not have POW's would be unauthentic in and of itself. In a "pursuing" campaign like this, you will arguably have more who get swallowed up. If you are cut-off, or gassed (don't be a hero), or in a situation it is pretty apparent, surrender. Self preservation would take over for anyone. I have also seen more than enough guys trying to be a hero or being unrealistic, (aka unauthentic.)
Alright, so now that all that is out in the open there is one other aspect in regard to all this, which the participants much decide or consider. "Hits" are of course secondary to the whole purpose of this event. Many would argue it would be unrealistic (aka unauthentic) to not have a few hits/casualties occasionally. (BTW- there was a pretty good distribution of hits at BGR...) The 28th LA will be pursued for 5 days, and all CS full well know, up front, if they take a hit, they will be captured and a POW. Anyone who does consider taking a hit, does consider being a POW, there are no two ways about it.
So, there isn't a blanket 'high road' for anyone. Which would be more authentic (taking the postive view here) for everyone's most authentic experience? No CS hits all week because anyone who even considered it was to some, possibly unathentic, Or, folks who are caught in unfortunate circumstances or choose to take a hit, full well understanding they will becom POW's?
I think I know which most would prefer. I will not consider anyone, who ends up whether by their choosing to take a hit or gets backed into a situation geting captured, unathentic by any means. If you were unathentic, you wouldn't be here.
Very Best Regards... Gotta go pack. Anyone arriving tomorrow night come on by and hang-out.
Originally posted by Old Reb
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I am by know means advocating anyone, especially my men, purposely getting captured. So let's get the intentional white flags and the dropping arms and running to the other side visions, out of the discussion.
This event (if it is like BGR) is about survival, under challenging physical and mental conditions. It is also, or became about relating to those around you whether it was your messmates, your company, your batallion, officers or possibly the enemy. As such, this relating, produced the best first person I experienced at any event. You can relate to all of those very easily, with the exception of the adversary, whether pursuer or pursuee. I was captured at Outpost under no fault of my own and not intentionally. We were about to be cut-off, and although I quickly informed our officers of the company (Ox) closing in behind us unseen to all else, we were ordered to stand tight and try to repel that advance with barely more than a section. We followed orders, and me and my platoon were all overrun and captured. The resulting FP and experience were rewarding and more period than most I have had out in the field over the years.
For those who know me, realize if at all possible I dont' advocate anything unauthentic. Rather, as authentic and challenging as possible, (and I also know that turns some people off as well.) That is why we are here. I harbor no hard feelings, because I honestly this has digressed of point and intention. To purposely, and unrealistically, do something to get captured is unauthentic; I certainly agree. However, the POW aspect is IMHO undrerepresented at most events. There were POW's. To not have POW's would be unauthentic in and of itself. In a "pursuing" campaign like this, you will arguably have more who get swallowed up. If you are cut-off, or gassed (don't be a hero), or in a situation it is pretty apparent, surrender. Self preservation would take over for anyone. I have also seen more than enough guys trying to be a hero or being unrealistic, (aka unauthentic.)
Alright, so now that all that is out in the open there is one other aspect in regard to all this, which the participants much decide or consider. "Hits" are of course secondary to the whole purpose of this event. Many would argue it would be unrealistic (aka unauthentic) to not have a few hits/casualties occasionally. (BTW- there was a pretty good distribution of hits at BGR...) The 28th LA will be pursued for 5 days, and all CS full well know, up front, if they take a hit, they will be captured and a POW. Anyone who does consider taking a hit, does consider being a POW, there are no two ways about it.
So, there isn't a blanket 'high road' for anyone. Which would be more authentic (taking the postive view here) for everyone's most authentic experience? No CS hits all week because anyone who even considered it was to some, possibly unathentic, Or, folks who are caught in unfortunate circumstances or choose to take a hit, full well understanding they will becom POW's?
I think I know which most would prefer. I will not consider anyone, who ends up whether by their choosing to take a hit or gets backed into a situation geting captured, unathentic by any means. If you were unathentic, you wouldn't be here.
Very Best Regards... Gotta go pack. Anyone arriving tomorrow night come on by and hang-out.
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