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  • Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

    I am currently reading Joseph Glatthaar's General Lee's Army, and have to say that it has been incredibly enlightening. No matter if you are Western Theater or Federal, this book is a must read for getting an understanding of the common soldier. I HIGHLY recommend it. FYI, After 1st Manassas Confederates were camped in such heavy concentrations that they numbered nearly 10,000 men per square mile, which is in contrast to the city of Richmond which in 1860, had 6,000 people living per square mile. Lots of other good information as well.

    Lee
    Lee White
    Researcher and Historian
    "Delenda Est Carthago"
    "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

    http://bullyforbragg.blogspot.com/

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    Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

    Lee,

    Seconded.

    Now, I'm a dedicated Western Theater man. That is, my Civil War research interests lie west of the Appalachians and I mainly focus myself t...


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    [FONT=Garamond]Patrick A. Lewis
    [URL="http://bullyforbragg.blogspot.com/"]bullyforbragg.blogspot.com[/URL]

    "Battles belong to finite moments in history, to the societies which raise the armies which fight them, to the economies and technologies which those societies sustain. Battle is a historical subject, whose nature and trend of development can only be understood down a long historical perspective.”
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      Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

      Forged in Battle and March to the Sea and Beyond are both amazing books. After reading the first fifty pages of General Lee's Army, all I can say is, it better win the Bancroft Prize. So I second what the last two gentlemen said. That's all there is to say really.
      Yours, etc.,
      Matt White
      http://www.libertyrifles.org/
      http://www.cwurmuseum.org/
      http://www.military-historians.org/

      "One of the liveliest rows I had while in the service was with the quartermaster for filling a requisition that I made for shoes for my company, on the theory that no shoe was too large for a Negro, and he gave me all 10's and upwards. When I returned the shoes, informing him that my soldiers did not wear pontoons, he insisted that I should take them and issue them to my company anyway. Well, I didn't do it: consequently the row."
      -Robert Beecham 2nd Wisconsin/23rd USCT

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      • #4
        Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

        Glatthaar wrote it, need any more be said? THe man does increadible research and doesn't fall into the by gosh & by golly crowd. A true historian w/ the ability to write in ways that keep the book not only interesting but informative. In short another endorsement.
        Johan Steele aka Shane Christen C Co, 3rd MN VI
        SUVCW Camp 48
        American Legion Post 352
        [url]http://civilwartalk.com[/url]

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        • #5
          Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

          Good first hand accounts... at times though it gets a little to political. I understand the reason behind it, as a detail on how/why the average soldier fought and what his motivations were. Historgraphy (history of history) teaches us that one can find endless amounts of research to support his/her opinon.

          bottom line useful information, and worth a read.
          [B][I]Skip Owens[/I][/B]


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          • #6
            Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

            Originally posted by elcid01 View Post
            Historgraphy (history of history) teaches us that one can find endless amounts of research to support his/her opinon.
            Which is why this book is so completely necessary. The first 100 years of Civil War history are so reconciliationist, American triumphalist, or downright neo-Confederate as to be essentially a wash. This antiquated historiographical legacy remains especially potent in the war's military history, which is little more than the safe retreat of those who don't want to look the real war in the face. They can hide behind the study of tactics and of military material culture from 1861-1865 and ignore what they don't want to own up to their ancestors thinking, saying, and doing from 1850-1876.

            No, it is about time that someone has finally taken the step to incorporate not only "political" world of the Civil War into a major military history but also the elements of social and cultural relationships, racial attitudes, understandings of masculinity and femininity, and the role of economics as well. All of these factored in to the person of the Civil War soldier -- no, they made the Civil War soldier. And though these things have been explored well in other histories, they have, sadly, remained unnoticed by many Civil War "buffs" because they were not attached to a breakdown of who-shot-who at Gettysburg.

            As Lee has said, Glatthaar has finally written a book that might do reenactors' impressions some positive good, in a format that will not be rejected out of hand by the gear-head crowd for being "just another boring social history." I think that deserves more respect than a casual "use it for the quotes but don't think" analysis.
            [FONT=Garamond]Patrick A. Lewis
            [URL="http://bullyforbragg.blogspot.com/"]bullyforbragg.blogspot.com[/URL]

            "Battles belong to finite moments in history, to the societies which raise the armies which fight them, to the economies and technologies which those societies sustain. Battle is a historical subject, whose nature and trend of development can only be understood down a long historical perspective.”
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            • #7
              Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

              Chandra Manning's What This Cruel War Was Over which came out late last year, also fills out the human picture of Civil War era Americans, using their own words. I've read this one, now it seems like I should be picking up General Lee's Army as well.
              [FONT=Trebuchet MS]Joanna Norris Forbes[/FONT]

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              • #8
                Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                This book really sounds like a must-have. I've read McPherson's For Cause and Comrades, but I feel that he tries (and mabye he acknowledges that in the introduction, if I remember correctly) to incorporate too much (while still lacking evidence for special groups such as African-Americans and immigrants) and therefore only touches the surface of issues that are best described in depth when looking at a certain group.

                Thanks for drawing my attention to this book! (Although I'll have to read This Republic of Suffering first ;) .)
                Bene von Bremen

                German Mess

                "I had not previously known one could get on, even in this unsatisfactory fashion, with so little brain."
                Ambrose Bierce "What I Saw of Shiloh"

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                • #9
                  Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                  check and a roger.. thats why i have a copy right here at my desk on my patrol base over looking the Tigris. Very good read.

                  Point is this. I can make any opinon of any time of history if I find enough supporting primary and secondary sources. Which in my work in college as a SC Historical Society intern I found to be entirely true. Yes the material culture value is beyond comparison. Agreed that the need to see beyond 4 years of the war and expand the limits to the ave life spans of the Veterans is a must. But, as stated there are some facets of the content I agree to dissagree with...

                  One thing I am pleased to say is that I appreciate how he doesn't spend chapters upon chapters on the tactical aspects of engagements, but more on soldiers issues around the effects of the battle.

                  Cheers,
                  [B][I]Skip Owens[/I][/B]


                  EMAIL:[EMAIL="saltwaterboy01@gmail.com"]saltwaterboy01@gmail.com[/EMAIL]


                  [U]Southern Guard Living History Assn.
                  [URL="http://www.southernguard.org"]http://www.southernguard.org[/URL]


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                  • #10
                    Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                    Based on what I was hearing on this forum I picked up the book a couple days ago. I've just finished chapter five and already think this book is incredible. The use of census information was really interesting.
                    Kurt Loewe
                    Botsford Mess
                    Member, Company of Military Historians

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                    • #11
                      Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                      For those near Madison Wisconsin, Mr. Joseph Glatthaar is speaking at the Wisconsin Veterans Museum at 7:00 tonight. I'll let you all know how it is.

                      Steve Acker

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                      • #12
                        Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                        Also for those who are interested, you can listen to a talk Glatthar did at the Virginia Historical Society last month on their website. As to the book, for those interested in first person you need to read this book. The census data is great.

                        Lee
                        Lee White
                        Researcher and Historian
                        "Delenda Est Carthago"
                        "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

                        http://bullyforbragg.blogspot.com/

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                        • #13
                          Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                          This book was a very good read. I liked the combination of census data, personal accounts of the "big names" as well as common soldiers, battle descriptions (although I think he did not write a lot about Fredericksburg except one sentence - which seems odd, given the much more detailed description of the other battles in his book), "behind-the-scenes" information (e.g. when talking about the manufacture of ammunition), ... I can only recommend this book!
                          Bene von Bremen

                          German Mess

                          "I had not previously known one could get on, even in this unsatisfactory fashion, with so little brain."
                          Ambrose Bierce "What I Saw of Shiloh"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                            Bought the book on the recommendations here. Its a very good book, and is a good read.
                            Ron Mueller
                            Illinois
                            New Madrid Guards

                            "How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
                            Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."
                            Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #15
                              Re: Must read for your impression...General Lee's Army

                              I also enjoyed it. If you can only read one book this year, General Lee's Army is it.
                              GaryYee o' the Land o' Rice a Roni & Cable Cars
                              High Private in The Company of Military Historians

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