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    Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

    For those of you that have not been to Manassas Battlefield yet, I thought you might get a laugh out of this. We did. Some friends and I visited the battlefield last week for the first time and took a picture of the statue of General Jackson (Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson). Picture attached

    It looks as if he had been pumping iron for years! We asked the battlefield guide about the statue’s build and he said that the artist “took some liberties when he created the statue”. No kidding!

    Look at the size of him. Looks more like a bodybuilder in a civil war uniform than the pictures I’ve seen of General Jackson.

    We thought it was funny. Hope you enjoy.

    Brian Wiswell
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    Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

    I've always assumed the statue was sculpted by someone at Marvel or maybe DC Comics...or even one of Nazi Germany's uber mensch sculptors from the late 30's. He doesn't have a uniform, he has a Super Suit. The overcoat in July is a nice touch too...can't be too careful with those noon time chills.
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    Doug Cooper

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      Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

      Wow, I never really paid that much attention to the detail of the statue, I was just in awe of being on historic ground when I was there. Now that you mention it, that man is ripped! You can even see the muscle definition in his boots - now thats a superhero image for sure. I can see that there were a few "liberties" taken. Thanks for the chuckle on a day I needed some.
      Last edited by Ross L. Lamoreaux; 07-10-2008, 05:45 PM. Reason: can't spell today
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      • #4
        Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

        Maybe we just missed something in the "History" Books...perhaps Jackson really did have a super-secret-alter ego...

        T.J. Jackson in Normal life...vs. the Super-General "Stonewall" Jackson on the Battlefield?

        Paul B.
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        • #5
          Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

          Heck even the horse is ripped. They did not have steriod usage back then the way we do today did they?
          Respectfully,
          Joel Barnes
          VMI Class of 2009

          "Why do men fight who were born to be brothers?" -James Longstreet

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          • #6
            Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

            It kind of reminds me of He-Man and Battle Cat from my younger days :)
            Seth Graves

            Courage - a perfect sensibility of the measure of danger, and a mental willingness to endure it.

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            • #7
              Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

              Hi,

              Didn't all Civil War soldiers look like that!:D
              Andrew Kasmar

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              • #8
                Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                Good replies, guys! I posted that so you all could get a laugh and I ended-up laughing hard at your replies.

                thanks

                Brian Wiswell
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                • #9
                  Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                  The very first time I visited the battlefield with my Father I pointed out that "people back then were very muscular" (keep in mind that I was 9 years old at the time). My Dad being the scholar that is said, "I did not know that..why don't you do some research and show me that your statement is true."

                  My research on Jackson and numerous other photos have since proved my previous statement wrong...he wasn't the ripped super physical specimen that the statue shows. And I still to this day have not admitted that to my Father (and don't know if I ever will) that I was wrong so many years ago.

                  Does anyone want to post a picture of the Longstreet statue in Pitzer's Woods at Gettysburg and point out that he is way to big to ride a horse that size?
                  Matthew Semple

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                  • #10
                    Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                    Iron Man Jackson and his steed, Steriod Sorrel. Now I understand why the Confederates won many of the early battles.

                    Longstreet's statute was supposed to be mounted atop a tall pedestal. Viewed from far below, it would have been impressive. Fundraising fell short and they put Old Pete on the ground. His horse is distorted because the perspective is all wrong. Opps.
                    Last edited by Gary of CA; 07-10-2008, 08:26 PM.
                    GaryYee o' the Land o' Rice a Roni & Cable Cars
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                    • #11
                      Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                      "Artistic License" is common in all the arts, with the idea to draw one's attention to the work and and to glorify the subject, human or otherwise. Absolute accuracy is generally not a consideration.
                      Bernard Biederman
                      30th OVI
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                      • #12
                        Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                        Originally posted by Gary of CA View Post
                        Longstreet's statute was supposed to be mounted atop a tall pedestal. Viewed from far below, it would have been impressive. Fundraising fell short and they put Old Pete on the ground. His horse is distorted because the perspective is all wrong. Opps.
                        It is still an impressive statue at first glance despite the change from the original design.

                        How tall was that pedestal suppose to be? The only reason I ask is becuse all other statues (including the Virginia Monument which is the tallest monument at Gettysburg with a General riding a horse at the top) are proportionate.

                        I doubt that the Longstreet Monument would look more proportionate atop a pedestal.
                        Matthew Semple

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                        • #13
                          Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                          Sorry Matthew, I don't know the answer to your question.
                          GaryYee o' the Land o' Rice a Roni & Cable Cars
                          High Private in The Company of Military Historians

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                          • #14
                            Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                            And yet that hockey thread got locked?:sarcastic
                            Andrew Donovan
                            Michigan

                            I think many of us get nostalgic about the past and like to think somehow that the world our mid-19th century ancestors lived in was free from many of the "sins" of our present world. Truth is, the more you study the past the more you realize that there's really nothing new under the sun. They struggled with many (most) of the same problems we do today.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Arnold Schwarzen-Jackson

                              To me Longstreet resemble more of a Santa Clause figure with his flowing facial hair.
                              Respectfully,
                              Joel Barnes
                              VMI Class of 2009

                              "Why do men fight who were born to be brothers?" -James Longstreet

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