What would you like to experiance at future events?

[MO-Pard]

Re: What would you like to experiance at future events?

More "Campaigner Events", where you are actually on the move, self-sufficient, and go more than a friday night, saturday and sunday morning. No 35 mile forced-marches like the 19th Iowa.... but "interaction" with your foe over 4-7 miles per day.

There doesn't have to be anything fancy scenariowise (though specific activities/scenarios are always welcome), just the chance to test mind and body for a few days. Live like a soldier for 48 hours-plus, and get in their heads and boots. I know these type events are only within the attitude and/or ability of a very small percentage of the proclaimed C/P/H'ers out here, but I know to those who have the ability/attitude, we need more BGR's, Marmaduke's and Piney Woods, style events.

There is nothing else like them and no better experience. These events are different and have been by far the best, deepest and most numerous experiences I have ever had in the hobby.

Thanks for asking.......

[lukegilly13]

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Sure... with unlimited resources, funds, land, time and men, we could do some great things... such as re-create a section of opposing trenches such as were at Petersburg!

Brian,
Didn't mean to go outside the scope of the thread. This may be as close as I will ever get to the Petersburg thing.....looks like some really awesome trench war and defending forts here!
http://www.battleoffortsanders.com/Site/Welcome.html

[KPavia]

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This just came to my mind also...what about doing a court martial for some soldiers accused of desertion or some other crime? Not all scenarios need to be out marching and burning powder, even though those are really fun. But I've never heard of a living history scenario of a court martial. All you would need is a prosecution, a defense, a jury, a basic scenario of what occurred for the two lawyers to go off of, maybe some witnesses, and a knowledge of military justice and proceedings of the time. The case could be argued for an hour or two, and at the end, the jury can decide who is hanged and who gets to join their company again. Of course, nobody is executed.:D

That, I think, would be an interesting peek into the life of a civil war soldier that I've never seen done before.

[BrianHicks]

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Luke,

The fort they have built looks remarkable! Unfortunately, our end of the Hobby isn't capable of such feats. Perhaps if we were to have our events as 'pay-for-view' for spectators, we'd turn a profit and afford such future undertakings and be able to achieve that level of infrastructure construction.

[CompanyWag]

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Brian,
Didn't mean to go outside the scope of the thread. This may be as close as I will ever get to the Petersburg thing.....looks like some really awesome trench war and defending forts here!
http://www.battleoffortsanders.com/Site/Welcome.html

Interesting video on that site. Complete with tree stumps strung with trip wires. Very ambitious; Orlando Poe would be proud! Is this a "mainstream" event?

Paul McKee

[BrianHicks]

Re: What would you like to experiance at future events?

This just came to my mind also...what about doing a court martial for some soldiers accused of desertion or some other crime? Not all scenarios need to be out marching and burning powder, even though those are really fun. But I've never heard of a living history scenario of a court martial. All you would need is a prosecution, a defense, a jury, a basic scenario of what occurred for the two lawyers to go off of, maybe some witnesses, and a knowledge of military justice and proceedings of the time. The case could be argued for an hour or two, and at the end, the jury can decide who is hanged and who gets to join their company again. Of course, nobody is executed.:D

That, I think, would be an interesting peek into the life of a civil war soldier that I've never seen done before.

Kenny,

This December at the Fort Moultrie, Charleston SC event (1858), we'll be recreating a session of the Courts Martial of the Post Surgeon.

[lukegilly13]

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Paul,
It really depends on the definition...it is very close to period grounds and there are several progressive units attending....It was planned by progressives and I believe to get numbers they have opened it up to the Farbalitions. My understanding is that the hosts plan to portray actual scenarios from Fort Sanders to the extent possible.

[BrianHicks]

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Interesting video on that site. Complete with tree stumps strung with trip wires. Very ambitious; Orlando Poe would be proud! Is this a "mainstream" event?

Paul McKee

Paul,

Having looked at the event guidelines, and the amenities listed on the event web site, I find it very hard to categorize this event as anything beyond the standard mainstream type affair.

I have to admit that based on the photos, I greatly admire the Fort that they have built for this event. And yes... it would be nice to be able to do something of that scale for a Campaigner event.. but I think we all realize the monetary and man power constraints that hinder such efforts on our end of the hobby.

[CompanyWag]

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Paul,

There is nothing wrong with thinking big.

Realistic, practical.. and more importantly...'do-able' is what I'm asking for here.

Sure... with unlimited resources, funds, land, time and men, we could do some great things... such as re-create a section of opposing trenches such as were at Petersburg! But realistically, on what scale can we do this for the size events we participate in on our end of the hobby?

Ideas for scenarios, vignettes, etc. which are achievable are what I'm asking for here. Not the wet dream, wow... wouldn't it be great 'if' scenarios... but real world... with hard work, achievable scenarios, vignettes and events, which we would like to participate in.

Ah Brian...Tis your thread. My apologies for my enthusiasm.

So please, let me put it another way. Far too many events are either centered around a certain battle, campaign or momentous event. I simply would like to see more scenarios that expand on the common and mundane experiences of the soldier that made up for 95% of his enlistment. Endless travel by various modes, fatigue details, building a corduroy road, guarding seemingly unimportant points, moving supplies, passing time as a prisoner or recovering as an invalid. No vain glorying; these are the types of things that for me adds to the realism of what we do.

Paul McKee

[CompanyWag]

Re: What would you like to experiance at future events?

Paul,

Having looked at the event guidelines, and the amenities listed on the event web site, I find it very hard to categorize this event as anything beyond the standard mainstream type affair.

I have to admit that based on the photos, I greatly admire the Fort that they have built for this event. And yes... it would be nice to be able to do something of that scale for a Campaigner event.. but I think we all realize the monetary and man power constraints that hinder such efforts on our end of the hobby.

Brian,

I would have to agree that though impressive, it does appear to be a mainstream reenactment. Ambitious though.

Hmmm. I do own some 50 wooded acres here up north. A couple weekends with a borrowed front end loader could certainly do some wonders.;)

Paul McKee

[Duff]

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These guys did petersburg pretty well. I actually got the idea from them.

http://www.lazyjacks.org.uk/gallery2.htm

[LibertyHallVols]

Re: What would you like to experiance at future events?

Now I don't know how practical this would be, but I've always wanted to do a 15-20 mile march in ONE day. Obviously it would be somewhat taxing on the participants, but with ten minute breaks every hour (which most units followed during the War), it could be done if the everyone was in shape and good health. Though there probably would be some difficulty finding a historical route to follow that would be safe...

Sounds, great...
But I'd like to stretch that out a bit. The Sixth Corps March by Doug Dobbs, et al, has really had my mind working. I would LOVE to do a long distance march like this! Not only for the impromptu living history that you can do for residents and bystanders along the march route, but for the things you can learn about campaigning (what to carry and how to carry it, how to care for feet, body, and gear) in the process.

If anyone is working on a march like this, please lemme know! I'd love to go for a loooong walk!

[BrianHicks]

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John,

Shiloh has those Boy Scout hiking routes. I know they have some that are 15-24 miles in length. Getting a group together, and moving along one of those routes is very 'do-able'.

[Johnny Lloyd]

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Brother Hicks-

I have taked about it with others of the Gawdawful Mess and I'd like to see a W-'64 for Confederate Winter quarters. How about a "W-'61"???

(W-'65 for Confederates might be challenging for some, but I'd do it.) ;)

We had so much stuff in our cabins during the W-'64 event and (arguably), the Yankees would have had it a bit better than their grey counterparts during such periods... As we did the event in February, I couldn't help but wonder what the Confederates were going through.

A military trial/ firing squad would be pretty neat to see. I've never been to an event that did such, but I know they exist.

At Old Bethpage Village in Long Island, New York, there is a mainstreamer event of the Irish Draft Riots in the streets of the historical village there every summer. I could only imagine if the authentics got ahold of this situation and made it better... awesome:D

Good topic... Johnny Lloyd

[Dale Beasley]

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I would like to see us go to Ship Island off the Mississippi coast and spend an entire weekend manning a fort. I know there have been other such events, however this one we must take a boat ride to the island and stay there.