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  • 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

    This is an exhibit I built in the main atrium of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)'s headquarters at Fort Campbell, KY. As many of you may know, the Screaming Eagle on our patch is "Old Abe", wartime mascot of the 8th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry, 1861-1864.

    I built this exhibit using appropriate funds, Soldier labor, and AC approved vendors. It can be done--government contracting officers WILL buy from quality vendors if you are persistent and insistent with your needs and expectations.

    Our stand-in for “Old Abe” is still under construction in Washington, D.C. and will join the exhibit in a month, or so. It will depict “Old Abe” in strike pose tethered to his perch, flying in front of, and above, the Eagle bearer. Since our famous shoulder patch shows "Old Abe" with white head feathers, I had to depict Abe after he "veteranized".

    Vendors:
    Hats: Tim Bender.
    Frocks, shirts, trousers: C.J. Daley.
    Flags: Steven Hill.
    Museum figures: Dorfman Museum Figures, Inc.
    Dirt: Courtesy of Wisconsin.
    Leather/field equipment: various sources.

    Construction of the perch. The perch/shield was the most challenging part of this exhibit. I reconstructed Old Abe's shield-shaped perch from extant photographs. However, only a handful of photos of the perch during actual wartime exist. Even then, it evolved quite a bit over time. Actual measurements were gleaned by viewing the famous “Old Abe” color guard photo and comparing the shield dimensions with known distances measured from the Springfield rifles in the same image. We chose to show the perch/shield as it originally looked. In the beginning, the actual perch was supported above the shield by three small struts and was pierced by three arrows. I will be the first to admit that I made some educated guesses when building it.

    Orientation and carriage of the perch. Some of you may be puzzled by the orientation of the perch (shield forward). Since no first-hand accounts regarding how this perch was carried on the march seem to exist, I had to improvise and experiment. I took the perch you see here, attached two sacks of flour to the top of it, and took it on a five-mile march. I learned alot from this experience! First of all---it sucked. When carrying this thing over long distances, the bearer must have had to rotate the shield/perch to gain relief for his shoulders. He could do this by alternately leaning it forward (as depicted) and turning it--then bringing it closer to his face (as depicted in Troiani’s painting). This experience tells me that regular repositioning of the perch/shield was a must.

    I am looking for some well-worn, but good quality, confederate and federal equipment/clothing items that I can add to this exhibit as “battlefield dropped” gear.

    If anyone is in our area and would like to check it out, the exhibit is open to the general public during the day. Address: General Anthony C. McAuliffe Hall, 2700 Indiana Avenue, Fort Campbell, KY 42223.

    Jim Page
    Captain, U.S. Army
    Division Historian

    BG Don F. Pratt Memorial Museum
    5702 Tennessee Avenue
    Fort Campbell, KY 42223-5500
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    Last edited by James A. Page; 09-18-2008, 08:06 AM. Reason: grammar
    Jim Page

    "Boys, Follow Me!"--Colonel William Bowen Campbell
    1st Regiment of Tennesse Volunteers (1846-1847)

    "Weeping in solitude for the fallen brave is better than the presence of men too timid to strike for their country"--Motto embroidered on the flag of the 1st Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers and presented by the Nashville Female Academy (June, 1846).

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    Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

    Jim,

    What a fantastic display! I have always been interested in the story of Old Abe, it’s great to see the color guard live again. Please post pics of the display once you get Old Abe. I would also say if anyone wants to know everything there is to know about Old Abe and his interesting life check out the book Old Abe the War Eagle by Richard Zeitlin. Thanks again for sharing the display!

    Regards,
    -Seth Harr

    Liberty Rifles
    93rd New York Coffee Cooler
    [I]
    "One of the questions that troubled me was whether I would ever be able to eat hardtack again. I knew the chances were against me. If I could not I was just as good as out of the service"[/I]
    [B]-Robert S. Camberlain, 64th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry[/B]

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    • #3
      Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

      This is an incredible display! You should be VERY proud!!!
      Tom "Mingo" Machingo
      Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess

      Vixi Et Didici

      "I think and highly hope that this war will end this year, and Oh then what a happy time we will have. No need of writing then but we can talk and talk again, and my boy can talk to me and I will never tire of listening to him and he will want to go with me everywhere I go, and I will be certain to let him go if there is any possible chance."
      Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
      Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
      KIA Petersburg, Virginia

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      • #4
        Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

        Hi,

        It is a spectacular looking display!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for posting the pictures of it.

        Andrew
        Andrew Kasmar

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        • #5
          Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

          Nice, I'm going to have to go check that out when I'm home next.
          [FONT=Garamond]Patrick A. Lewis
          [URL="http://bullyforbragg.blogspot.com/"]bullyforbragg.blogspot.com[/URL]

          "Battles belong to finite moments in history, to the societies which raise the armies which fight them, to the economies and technologies which those societies sustain. Battle is a historical subject, whose nature and trend of development can only be understood down a long historical perspective.”
          [/FONT]

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          • #6
            Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

            Hey James,
            That is awesome! I will have to see the exhibit and meet you when I get home from Afghanistan. The Division Blue Book states that the Old Abe was part of the Iron Brigade. Of course that is false since the 8th WI was out West with Sherman during the Vicksburg Campaign. CSM Blake of the Sustainment Bde commissioned a large depiction of the soon to be shoulder sleeve insignia of the 101st Sustainment Bde outside our HQ Bldg. The patch is a four pointed star with Old Abe in the middle with each of the Regimental Combat Team symbols in each apex (Ace of Spades, Ace of Hearts, Ace of Clubs, and the Rakkasan Torii).

            Regards,
            Mark Susnis
            Major, U.S. Army
            101st Joint Logistics Command
            Bagram, Afghanistan.
            Mark Susnis
            Msusnis@hotmail.com

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            • #7
              Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

              Hi James,

              That is a wonderful display on the 8th Wisconsin. Thank you for your attention to detail. Perhaps someone out their has an old Auggie Wiessert U.S. Issue Blanket that the Wisconsin Veterans Museum produced back in the mid 90's to donate to add even some more realism to the display.

              Our local historical room in Fox Lake Wisconsin contains a small collection of items from Lt. Samuel C. Mc Dowell of the Union Guards, Company "D" 8th Wisconsin Vols. including a paper printed on wallpaper from Vicksburg, a piece of the Confederate flag that flew over the City Hall, and many other items. Company "D" was raised out of Dodge County in Wisconsin and surrounding communities.

              If you get a chance, the Wisconsin Veterans Museum just launched their new webpage on Wisconsin’s Civil War Flags and efforts for preservation at www.wisconsinbattleflags.com The flags of the 8th Wisconsin are on the collection page already.

              Cordially,

              Tom
              Tom Klas
              Hard Head Mess
              Citizens Guard

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              • #8
                Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                Jim,

                Thanks for posting that, anything to do with 101st I am always glad to see. Have they built a new division HQ?

                Jim Kindred

                101 85-89
                7-101 AV
                6-101 AV
                Jim Kindred

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                • #9
                  Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                  Thanks for all the great comments.

                  Some additional items are on the way--Eagle, blanket/ground cloths, etc.

                  Mark S.--There is often alot of confusion about the 8th Wisconsin and the Iron Brigade--of course there is no real connection, the two fought no where near each other during the Civil War. However, the 101st was an organized reserve division headquartered in Milwaukee, WI from 1918-1942. When it submitted the design for its first shoulder patch in 1921, the narrative description said that the eagle symbolized "Old Abe" of the
                  8th Wisconsin, and went on to add that the black shield symbolized "the black hats of the iron brigade". So, either they were confused then too, or they opted to used symbolism drawn from the two most famous Wisconsin organizations from the War.

                  Jim K.--Yes, the new headquarters building--McAuliffe Hall--was completed last spring. We've been in it about a year now. This exhibit is inside the common areas of that new building.

                  I checked out the Wisconsin battle flags site--what a great site! I'm considering starting a sponsorship effort of the 8th Wisconsin flags started here among the interested Screaming Eagle troopers.

                  Jim Page
                  Last edited by James A. Page; 09-20-2008, 10:18 AM. Reason: Grammar
                  Jim Page

                  "Boys, Follow Me!"--Colonel William Bowen Campbell
                  1st Regiment of Tennesse Volunteers (1846-1847)

                  "Weeping in solitude for the fallen brave is better than the presence of men too timid to strike for their country"--Motto embroidered on the flag of the 1st Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers and presented by the Nashville Female Academy (June, 1846).

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                  • #10
                    Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                    Jim,

                    Thanks. I am going to miss the old HQ building, it had that old traditional sort of class the newer buildings seem to lack.
                    Jim Kindred

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                    • #11
                      Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                      I just miss being at the post all together. Jim, kudos on your work there at the new HQ's. I'll have to head up there and see that soon.
                      Timothy L Arnold
                      Top Rail Mess of the Hard Case Boys

                      Hard Case Boys forum

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                      • #12
                        Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                        Capt Page,
                        Thanks for posting the image. I was really depressed the day I mailed out those frocks, trowsers and sacks. I had spent weeks on the order and to see all that cool stuff leave with the UPS man was a sad moment.

                        Several years later, I'm very happy to see those items put to good use. That is really a great display and it's great to know that visitors to the museum will view those uniforms every day.

                        Best of luck with the rest of the museum!

                        ...now...back to sewing... :)
                        [COLOR="DarkRed"] [B][SIZE=2][FONT=Book Antiqua]Christopher J. Daley[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                        • #13
                          Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                          Dear Captain Page ,
                          Superb effort , sir ! Thank you . I will attempt to view it next time I am in Kentucky .
                          all for the old flag ,
                          David Corbett
                          Dave Corbett

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                          • #14
                            Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                            Congratulations Capt. Page on your new exhibit.
                            GaryYee o' the Land o' Rice a Roni & Cable Cars
                            High Private in The Company of Military Historians

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                            • #15
                              Re: 8th Wisconsin "Old Abe" Exhibit at Fort Campbell, KY

                              Too bad I didn't know about this sooner. I drove by Fort Campbell in July. Had I known, I would have stopped by to take a look. It looks like a great display that you worked hard at. Thanks for sharing.

                              Gerry Bliss
                              Co. H
                              "The Sandwich Guards"
                              10th Illinois Volunteer Regiment

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