CSN Motto~Help

[Stonewall_Greyfox]

OK...I posted this in the Naval subforum, but with no responses:

Over the weekend on my return from Westville, I had the oppurtunity to visit the Civil War Naval Museum in Port Columbus...some really cool stuff is on display there!

Before leaving I bought one of their "new" mugs with the CSN Seal and Motto, but am perplexed as to what the motto "Aide Toi Et Dieu Taidera" means...any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul B.

[Dignann]

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Paul,

Type it into Google and see what you get.

Eric

[AZReenactor]

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Try "Aide Toi Et Dieu T'Aidera" as I believe that is the proper spelling. You might also try a French Dictionary.

[john duffer]

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"God helps those who help themselves" is the English version.

[Mcouioui]

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"Try "Aide Toi Et Dieu T'Aidera" as I believe that is the proper spelling. You might also try a French Dictionary"

Right AZReenactor it's true!
It is exactly that in french "Aide toi et dieu t'aidera"

[Mcouioui]

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And the word for word translation is " Help you and god will help you "

[Mcouioui]

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This French expression of XV century and was resumed by the French Royal navy because it means:


Before speaking about it to god, it is necessary to know how to supply the necessary efforts.
In other words, before complaining, it is necessary to examine and to tempt all the possible solutions.
Once the efforts were carried out, we can then recover from it in the divine providence.
We also say " help you and the sky will help you " "aide toi et le ciel t'aidera"

[Vuhginyuh]

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Paul,

You will appreciate this. I am sure I have told you before that my grandfather grew up on Grove Ave just off the Boulevard. He was a walking Ridiculous Encyclopedia of all things Richmond; Monument Ave, the old Fan, Byrd Park and the Rockets, etc, etc, etc. I am all too familiar with this motto that he attributes as much to Matthew Fontaine Maury and his French Huguenot heritage as he does to the Confederate Navy.

My grandfathers Rockets Gang colloquial translation of Aide Toi Et Dieu T'Aidera is 'You Cant Get There From Here'.

[Joe Walker]

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This motto is on the Alabama's wheel. The wheel is on loan from Cherbourg, and is on display at the Washington (DC) Navy Yard museum.

Joe Walker

[Mcouioui]

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The only battle of the civil war abroad I believe?!

[Stonewall_Greyfox]

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The only battle of the civil war abroad I believe?!

Nope...but possibly the only one taking place in French Waters (proper).

Paul B.

[john duffer]

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The Alabama fight was in international waters with French warships standing by to enforce neutrality.

[Mcouioui]

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Sure, but with one good vision for the french people :)

[sigsaye]

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OK...I posted this in the Naval subforum, but with no responses:

Over the weekend on my return from Westville, I had the oppurtunity to visit the Civil War Naval Museum in Port Columbus...some really cool stuff is on display there!

Before leaving I bought one of their "new" mugs with the CSN Seal and Motto, but am perplexed as to what the motto "Aide Toi Et Dieu Taidera" means...any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul B.

Where is this "Naval Subforum"?

Steve Hesson

[Ross L. Lamoreaux]

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Where is this "Naval Subforum"?

Steve Hesson

Steve, its under Social Groups up top. Click on there and go to "Sea Dogs and River Rats" and sign on. You'd be a most welcome addition.