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  • #1

    OVM Buckles

    I am new to the forum, and new to CW reenacting. Currently I am in a new group forming in SW Ohio. What I would like to know about are OVM Buckles and Cartridge box plates. Were these used much or at all by Ohio Volunteer Regiments? Or were these just for State Militia and NG troops?

    Just Curious as I am putting my kit together and wondered if this would enhance my impression or if I should just stick to US plate and buckle.

    Thanks

    Ken Berry
    [FONT="Georgia"]Ken Berry[/FONT]
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    Re: OVM Buckles

    I've sent you a PM.
    Last edited by Private Glover; 03-19-2009, 06:38 PM.
    Mel Glover
    Strawfoot
    6th Ohio Volunteer Infantry

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    • #3
      Re: OVM Buckles

      Hallo!

      The Ohio Volunteer Militia were formed in March of 1857.

      Enough "puppy paw" type waistbelts and box plates were made, and "on hand," to have gone in limited quantities to low numbered militia regiments going into service in 1861.
      Examples have been found at Manassas, as well as post 1862-1863 camp sites.
      Ohio QM reports still show them listed 1863-1865.

      These also go with the Ohio Militia shoulder belt plates (known in two state seal styles). (A surviving one, carved with the date "1863" belonged to G.W. Gates of the 15th Ohio.)

      Kerksis holds these plates as being circa 1840 and 1850.

      At any rate, they are limited, and unit/time/place specific.

      Others' mileage will vary...

      Curt

      (There is a surviving wasitbelt plate with a single "arrowhead" fastener.)
      Curt Schmidt
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      • #4
        Re: OVM Buckles

        Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich Schmidt View Post
        Examples have been found at Manassas, as well as post 1862-1863 camp sites.
        Ohio QM reports still show them listed 1863-1865.
        There have also been several recoveries of these plates at Gettysburg.
        Brian Koenig
        SGLHA
        Hedgesville Blues

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        • #5
          Re: OVM Buckles

          Here's an anomoly. This photo shows members of the 2nd CT Heavy Artillery in Ft. CF Smith in 1865 (LOC mistakenly labels them as 2nd NYHA). Note the fellow on the right is wearing an "OVM" buckle. I checked their roster to see if their ranks possibly contained a fellow with the initials OVM who wore it for vanity purposes but no luck. Go figure.
          Bob Williams
          26th North Carolina Troops
          Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

          As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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          • #6
            Re: OVM Buckles

            I found a great one with arrow hooks at Chapmans Bayou, Louisiana in 1977. Unfortunatley it went with the great sale I had in 1990 to pay for my son's premature delivery. It had all three hooks and was in sound shape though I had knicked it when I dug it.
            Chapmans Bayou was part of the Red River Campaign and was considered the 'third phase' of the Battle of Sabine Crossroads. I found it in the middle of the old road bed right where it crossed the creek along with a very nice springfield bayonet.
            So, at least as late as April 8, 1864 there was a soldier in Banks army wearing one.
            I have heard a rumor of a Ohio State Seal breast plate dug at the Sabine Crossroad's battlefield near where the 48th Ohio was surrounded and captured but have never been able to see it or substantiate it.

            I HAVE seen two Ohio State Seal breast plates dug from the Vicksburg area, one at Snyders Bluff and the other at Bovina.

            Ronnie
            Ronnie Hull
            Lt Co G 3rd La / Co C 48th OVI
            Shreveport, La

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            • #7
              Re: OVM Buckles

              Ohioans Visiting Mississippi :p
              Frank Perkin

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              • #8
                Re: OVM Buckles

                Hey thats pretty good LOL

                Ronnie

                P.S. I also found a pretty nice SNY at Pleasant Hill
                Ronnie Hull
                Lt Co G 3rd La / Co C 48th OVI
                Shreveport, La

                Independent Rifles and all of hell followed "
                Western Independent Greys

                Descendent of Levi W. Leech - Private, Co G Tenth Texas Cavalry, Dmtd 1861-1865, AOT

                2009 Bummers November 13 - 16
                2010 Vicksburg L.O.L February 5-7
                Before the Breakout September 10-12

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                • #9
                  Re: OVM Buckles

                  O.V.M.
                  http://www.ohiocivilwar.com/stori/ovm.html


                  See this site for the "full "Ohio Visiting Mississippi" story.
                  Bob Williams
                  26th North Carolina Troops
                  Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

                  As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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                  • #10
                    Re: OVM Buckles

                    Then what do my "OVI" plates stand for?
                    Pat Brown

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                    • #11
                      Re: OVM Buckles

                      Ohio Volunteer Infantry. They are so rare as to be virtually nonexistant and I would not recommend their use in any scenario.
                      Bob Williams
                      26th North Carolina Troops
                      Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

                      As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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                      • #12
                        Re: OVM Buckles

                        Thanks, but I was hoping for something a little more humorous...
                        Pat Brown

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