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    Crimean War Information

    Gentlemen,

    In effort to better understand some of the European Imports during the American Civil War, I'm looking for any books/websites/associations which have "good" information on Uniforms/Equipment used in the European Armies during this period.

    Specifically: Tents, Knapsacks, Shirts, Accoutrements...etc.

    Thanks,

    Paul B.
    Paul B. Boulden Jr.


    RAH VA MIL '04
    (Loblolly Mess)
    [URL="http://23rdva.netfirms.com/welcome.htm"]23rd VA Vol. Regt.[/URL]
    [URL="http://www.virginiaregiment.org/The_Virginia_Regiment/Home.html"]Waggoner's Company of the Virginia Regiment [/URL]

    [URL="http://www.military-historians.org/"]Company of Military Historians[/URL]
    [URL="http://www.moc.org/site/PageServer"]Museum of the Confederacy[/URL]
    [URL="http://www.historicsandusky.org/index.html"]Historic Sandusky [/URL]

    Inscription Capt. Archibold Willet headstone:

    "A span is all that we can boast, An inch or two of time, Man is but vanity and dust, In all his flower and prime."
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  • #2
    Re: Crimean War Information

    Sir,

    I am told that Mr. Michael Vice, late of our National Park Service has authored just such a book. I am told that it will be released in the very near future.

    If I hear of any further news I shall pass it along in this forum.

    Regards,
    Mark Latham

    "Mon centre cède, impossible de me mouvoir, situation excellente, j'attaque." ~Ferdinand Foch

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    • #3
      Re: Crimean War Information

      The jury is still out on the particulars of the circular tent. I have emailed Old Fort
      Henry Kingston with my request for details, but as it is their busy season I can understand a delay in their response.
      The details of Crimean War equipment are an involved subject. The equipment that marched out of England was not the same as when they returned. Uniforms had changed radically and equipment undewent a serious changew as well.
      David Burt does an excellent job detailing the imports from S. Issac Campbell in his recently published "Major Caleb Huse CSA & S Issac Campbell & Co."
      This however only details the new manufactured equipment sold to the South.
      Reference should be made to "Arms & Equipment of the British Army, 1866" which illustrates, literally, the 1856 pattern used byt the infantry.This is available as a download from Google books.
      While this is all good and speaks to the matter of new equiopment little is said about the older surplus equipment sold off by HM government. Further research can be had to a book titled "Tangled Web" by Service Publications in Canada. Search servicepublications.ca. This book details the accoutrements of the Canadian Army from 1856 to 1984 and is invaluable in the early years on detail and even method. Sorry gave my copy to Tim Sheads in Gettysburg.
      I have a magazine article on a Crimean Guardsman's knapsack, messtin and holdall from several years ago. This would probably best represent surplus equipment as opposed to the new manufacture.
      If it is firearms you seek then "The British Soldiers' Firearms, 1850 - 1864" is your reference.
      I have all of these references plus a few more. I am looking for my copy of Brian Mollo's "Uniforms and Equipment of the British Army in the Crimea".
      As stated in a previous message, I am also waiting for a copy of the new book on Crimea equipment. I ordered a copy at Dirty Billy's in July.
      If you wish me to dig into my library for particulars please forward a request and I will be delighted to send what I have.

      Erik Simundson
      Erik Simundson

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      • #4
        Re: Crimean War Information

        Thanks All for the help so far...

        It's getting a bit interesting, with the latest transcription of the 'Grey Army Shirts' being imported ca. Spring 1864 from England...my understanding is that these grey flannel shirts replaced the previous striped cotton shirt, and were used for some time in the British Army...anyone have the specs on these??

        Paul B.
        Paul B. Boulden Jr.


        RAH VA MIL '04
        (Loblolly Mess)
        [URL="http://23rdva.netfirms.com/welcome.htm"]23rd VA Vol. Regt.[/URL]
        [URL="http://www.virginiaregiment.org/The_Virginia_Regiment/Home.html"]Waggoner's Company of the Virginia Regiment [/URL]

        [URL="http://www.military-historians.org/"]Company of Military Historians[/URL]
        [URL="http://www.moc.org/site/PageServer"]Museum of the Confederacy[/URL]
        [URL="http://www.historicsandusky.org/index.html"]Historic Sandusky [/URL]

        Inscription Capt. Archibold Willet headstone:

        "A span is all that we can boast, An inch or two of time, Man is but vanity and dust, In all his flower and prime."

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        • #5
          Re: Crimean War Information

          There are some photographs at this site http://www.old-picture.com/1850s-index-001.htm scroll through for different images.

          Although these, as you would expect, are of officers, there are a few of common soldiers and a lot of bell tents/camps.

          I will look through my library today for other reference material.
          [FONT="Georgia"][B][I][U]Ken Pettengale[/U][/I][/B][/FONT]
          [I]Volunteer Company, UK[/I]


          "You may not like what you see, but do not on that account fall into the error of trying to adjust it to suit your own vision of what it ought to have been."
          -- [I][B]George MacDonald Fraser[/B][/I]

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          • #6
            Re: Crimean War Information

            Another link to the Roger Fenton Crimean photographic collection.

            A lot of these are, obviously, the same as the previous link, but it does contain a few more of the 'common' soldier.

            Just a moment...
            http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/coll/251_fen.html
            [FONT="Georgia"][B][I][U]Ken Pettengale[/U][/I][/B][/FONT]
            [I]Volunteer Company, UK[/I]


            "You may not like what you see, but do not on that account fall into the error of trying to adjust it to suit your own vision of what it ought to have been."
            -- [I][B]George MacDonald Fraser[/B][/I]

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            • #7
              Re: Crimean War Information

              For information check out the Die Hards out of England. They have a lot of information on the subject and they are really cool about helping out.
              The Die Hards
              http://www.thediehards.co.uk/

              I hope this helps
              Tom Backus
              Brown Bottle Mess
              Co. H 3rd Arkansas

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              • #8
                Re: Crimean War Information

                For future reference,
                Newly Digitised:
                http://www.archive.org/details/reviewofcrimeanw00adye

                A review of the Crimean War to the winter of 1854-5
                by Adye, John Sir
                Published in 1860, Hurst and Blackett (London)


                http://www.archive.org/details/transcaucasianca00olip
                The Trans-Caucasian campaign of the Turkish army under Omer Pasha
                a personal narrative

                by Oliphant, Laurence
                Published in 1856, W. Blackwood and sons (Edinburgh and London)
                Last edited by benjclark; 08-26-2009, 11:50 AM.
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                Benjamin L. Clark
                [URL="http://www.themondak.org"]MonDak Heritage Center[/URL]
                [URL="http://www.montanamuseums.org/"]Museums Assoc. of Montana[/URL]

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                • #9
                  Re: Crimean War Information

                  Here's McClellan's contemporary (1857) report on the organization, equipment, training, &c. of the armies involved in the conflict, as well as an overview of the war. Besides its specific applicability to the Crimean, I found it interesting to compare the equipment of European troops with our own:

                  http://books.google.com/books?id=Spg...age&q=&f=false
                  Michael A. Schaffner

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