Stolen firearms

[rebelfirefighter07]

I recieved the following email today from a member of my unit:


"Gentlemen,


A compatriot and collector in my brigade was robbed. Many items, particularly antique firearms, were stolen from his home. Since SCV members and reenacters will be a likely market for these items, please be on the look out for them. Please forward this e-mail to anyone or any list that you think would be helpful. If you have any information about them, please contact me below. Here is a list of the stolen firearms:


1- 75 cal. Pedersoli (Flintlock) Brown Bess type Indian trade musket 30” barrel
1- 58 cal. Model 1853 Euroarms 3 band Enfield (percussion)
1- 58 cal. Model 1841 Mississippi rifled musket (has a small chip on forestock) (Zoli)
1- 56 cal. Hawkens type smoothbore Thompson center arms type trigger guard
2- 69 cal. Model 1847 Armisport Springfield Muskets
2- 20 ga. Pedersoli double barrel shotguns
1- 12 ga. CVA double barrel shotgun (has hose clamp holding barrels to forestock) poor boy type no buttplate.
1- 12 ga. Navy arms type double barrel shotgun
1- 12 ga. Pedersoli double barrel “Coach gun” shotgun short barrels
1- 58 cal. Euroarms Cook & Brother Artillery type musketoon
2- 36 cal. Model 1851 Brass frame Colt revolvers
2- 44 cal. Model 1847 Colt revolvers
1- 44 cal. 3rd Model Dragoon Colt revolver 16 or 18 inch barrel
1- 44 cal. Double barrel Corsair pistol
1- 36 cal. Smooth bore single shot pistol
1- 44 cal. Brass frame Remington revolver 12” barrel (Wyatt Erpp type)
1- 22 cal. Winchester Model 67 bolt action rifle
1- 22 cal. Beretta auto pistol


Thanks for your help,
Joe Warnke, Dawsonville, GA
2nd Brigade Commander, Georgia Division, SCV
eleventhgacav@windstream.net
706-974-8932 "

[Minieball577]

Re: Stolen firearms

I saw a Cook and Brother Artillery type musketoon on Gunbroker today. They show up there pretty infrequently, so it may be worth taking a look at.

[13thnhv]

Re: Stolen firearms

What kind of unearthly maggots inflict this kind of ruin on folks. I hope he/they get caught and dealt with in a hard fashion.

[swankgreg]

Re: Stolen firearms

Hi Andy,

Could you tell me which state these were stolen in? I often peruse the gun auction sites and was curious if I should see one of these pop up over the next several days where they might come from?

[Johnny Lloyd]

Re: Stolen firearms

Just curious... Is there a list of identifying marks/serial #s that people can check against their recent purchases? Perhaps certain kind people might come forward and say if they have one of the stolen pieces.

All the best- Johnny Lloyd:wink_smil

[MarionRifles]

Re: Stolen firearms

If you go to Gunbroker and find a weapon (like the Cook & Brothers mentioned above), make sure you click the icon that says "show sellers other items".If more of the firearms show up that are on the list,it may be worth looking into.

[rebelfirefighter07]

Re: Stolen firearms

Sorry for the late reply. I ain't been around. The only information I have is what I posted. I recieved the information in a email from a guy in my unit. The guns were stolen from Georgia. I'll let yall know if I can find out any more. Thanks!

[sf46]

Re: Stolen firearms

Yes, I got the same e-mail through the SCV. Apparently it's been distributed to all SCV members. It would be nice, as someone else said if a few serial numbers were available to help distinguish these guns from any other.

[Secesh]

Re: Stolen firearms

Sadly, the flip side of defarbing a firearm is the removal of serial numbers....

[Johnny Lloyd]

Re: Stolen firearms

Sadly, the flip side of defarbing a firearm is the removal of serial numbers....

True, but they might not have ALL numbers removed from every one of them. There is hope still in this route. :)

All the best -Johnny Lloyd:wink_smil

[JimKindred]

Re: Stolen firearms

Sadly, the flip side of defarbing a firearm is the removal of serial numbers....

No, sadly the down side in defarbing is someone not thinking for enough ahead and either adding their SSN or replacing the serial number on the underside of the barrel.

Of course even with the original serial number having not been removed too few people record that number before the firearm is stolen. It is usually right after the theft that they think "I should have written those numbers down somewhere." Otherwise known as the "Duh" factor.

[NCSoldier]

Re: Stolen firearms

It would be smart to put them in a concealed location where only you know where they are. May be time consuming but on objects of high value, is it not worth the time? Record every purchase and keep the dated reciept in a book, along with the serial number, and if remarked, note where it is marked at. Keep it in the safe at home or in the safe deposit box at the bank. That way if it/they are ever stolen you can provide a copy to the authorities so they know what to look for. Also time consuming but worth it is to digitally catalog each piece (digital camera with a clean white background, natural lighting). Save it to your hard drive.

[lojafan]

Re: Stolen firearms

Charlie has good ideas with keeping good records on your weapons. Some of them can be covered under your home owners insurance, so you would need evidence of purchase and ownership for them to be replaced. I personally have the serial numbers on all my weapons, but no pictures. Some of those things we just don't think about. A lot of people don't ever think about getting robbed by scum, but maybe it something we should do with ALL our items (uniforms, gear, weapons, etc.), espically since some of them cannot be replaced or are very expensive. Just my .02

[NCSoldier]

Re: Stolen firearms

Thats another thing. You need to see how much, if any or what, is covered under your home owners insurance. If your collection is pricey, you may even consider a policy just for your firearms/uniforms/one-of's etc. Usually when they get stolen, they are gone. On the rare occasion you get them back. You would think that someone stealing guns would skip over the "old" ones, but pawn shops will take almost anything, and as long as it can be sold, it can be stolen. It will be well worth your time if it leads to your items being returned.

[BarryDusel]

Re: Stolen firearms

ID, serial numbers aside. I had a potential member of my Rev War unit rip me off. I agreed to allow him to purchase a Custom built 2nd Mdl Bess from me .
Initially this guy presented himself as a new father with a desire to reenact but, with some but not alot disposable income. I allowed him to give me 50% down and he could began to use the Bess. We made the deal in a parking lot and his kids were present. Long story short. The guy is a Doctor of Education with more then alot of disposable income. He had no real desire to reenact. he wanted a musket for his wall. Even though he agreed to return the piece to me if he never reenacted. To date, 5 + years he has never given me the remaining money or the Bess. I went to the PD with pics of the Bess. As well as the ID markings I had placed and where they were. The PD took the report and investigated. To date 3+ years theres been no reparations either way. His claim was he paid full price and there was no agreement otherwise. He even had the gonads to offer that he would return my Bess to me if I purchased another gun for his collection of his chosing. Hopefully he'll get radiation illness. I had one of the infamous radiated shoes incorporated into the Frizzen. The lesson I've learned? Don't place any faith in law enforcement to recover your stolen firearms no matter what.