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  • #31
    Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

    Hallo!

    "Would it be feasible to drill out some excess wood from inside the butt stock to get rid of some weight, but not sacrifice strength? "

    Minimally possible, yes. Some little...

    When things are not proportioned the same, basically a larger part needs more wood around it. If one removes too much wood from the exterior, then the stock loses "proportionality" in the geometry and relationships between wood and metal. Plus, there is only so much wood that can be taken away or down before things get too "thin" or "out of balance."

    Some lads have attempted to deal with the stock by drilling holes under things such as under the breechplug tang, under the trigger guard plate, and particularly larger holes under the buttplate. From there, there were arguments about undermining (no pun intended) the strength of the stock so some filled the holes with styrofoam and some with liquid expanding insulation from a can.

    Most lads reshape stocks by taking off the obvious excess wood where found that is BEYOND the spatial and geometrical relationships that the Italian gusn should have even when "bulkier." IMHO, if one goes beyond that in their removal efforts, the pendulum swings too far in another wrong direction.

    I have never seen a lad do the above, and then report back on exactly how much or how little difference in weight they ultimately achieved with actual weight measurements.

    Curt
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    • #32
      Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

      Does anyone make replacement barrels for the Enfield that are of the correct weight and shape?
      Frank Perkin

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      • #33
        Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

        Hallo!

        Yes, makers who sell to the N-SSA shooting community and custom-builders do.

        As an aside though, an original configuration barrel is not a "drop in" in an Italian repro stock as the Italian stock is mortised for the Italian barrel. Fitting one would require some "cosmetic" skills.

        Curt
        Curt Schmidt
        In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

        -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
        -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
        -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
        -Vastly Ignorant
        -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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        • #34
          Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

          Well, I'm convinced. If I ever come into some mad money, the custom build is the way to go!
          Frank Perkin

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          • #35
            Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

            Personally for me, the weight of my repro Enfield vs the weight of an original has had a minimal impact on my ability to enjoy the hobby...
            Tom "Mingo" Machingo
            Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess

            Vixi Et Didici

            "I think and highly hope that this war will end this year, and Oh then what a happy time we will have. No need of writing then but we can talk and talk again, and my boy can talk to me and I will never tire of listening to him and he will want to go with me everywhere I go, and I will be certain to let him go if there is any possible chance."
            Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
            Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
            KIA Petersburg, Virginia

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            • #36
              Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

              I bet the extra weight comes close to making up for the lack of weight in our cartridge boxes. Just sayin'. Most of us could stand to lift some weights, as it is.
              Joe Knight

              Armory Guards
              Yocona Rip Raps
              "Semper Tyrannis."

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              • #37
                Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

                Joseph,
                Good point viz weight of cartridge boxes, I took this from bluegraymarching, ANV report on Heths Division in 1864.
                "That every man under arms be supplied with a shoulder belt and made to wear it. This I think would, during and active campaign, stop a certain amount of straggling, for no man undergo so much fatigue with the whole weight of accoutrements, bayonet and 40 rounds of ammunition pressing on his stomach, as he could if that weight were diverted. There are in this division 4011 men with cartridge boxes and only 3104 shoulder belts, so that at least 1007 men are wearing their cartridge boxes on their waist belts. The man in the ranks objects to the shoulder belt, saying it makes him too warm, and the officers do not insist on its being worn. I think that sufficient attention has not been paid to this matter."
                Bob Manzo
                Formerly of the 12th VA Inf Co G "Richmond Grays"

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                • #38
                  Re: Why are the repro muskets so heavy?

                  Originally posted by Secesh View Post
                  Personally for me, the weight of my repro Enfield vs the weight of an original has had a minimal impact on my ability to enjoy the hobby...
                  "Lunge Out" much? =)

                  Seriously, though. The question isn't as much about "enjoyment" of the hobby as it is "getting there" in terms of authenticity... or, at least, as close to "there" as time, knowledge, resources, and budget allow. Firearms are generally the weakest link in our collective impressions. We've come a long way in the last couple decades in terms of clothing, leather goods, headgear, tinware... Yes, some key vendors in some of those areas are no longer producing, but there are still good options available.

                  As far as "getting there" goes, the custom build is the best you can really do, for most muskets. Even then, it isn't always as "perfect" as you'd like it to be, considering the investment.

                  It really is a balancing act.
                  John Wickett
                  Former Carpetbagger
                  Administrator (We got rules here! Be Nice - Sign Your Name - No Farbisms)

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