Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

[cwpilgrim]

Gents,
I need to know the diameter along the shaft of the ramrod.
Anyone have the ability, or resources to provide the information?

It would be very helpful to me.

[GPM]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

My original measures .290 directly below the rearmost part of the brass nosecap and enlarges from there. The firearms imported during the war will vary.
A Euroarms rod that was close at hand measured .283 along the shaft. Hope this helps

[cwpilgrim]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

Greg,
Was that for the P53 or P58?
What does the original measure in the center?

Thanks for the assistance.

[Johan Steele]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

I have access to 3, 2 are for P53 Birmingham made & the 3rd for a P56 Enfield made which measures at .258 to .280 along its length but this is a heavily used and abused rod, to the point that the head is worn down to only about 2/3 of her original size.

The two P53 are almost completely different ramrods in thickness. One is about .250 average for most of its length swelling noticably and not uniformly behind the nosecap to .3. The other is very uniform at .290 the whole length. Of note all three ramrods have had the threaded area hammered down to a crude screw driver.

[Jimmayo]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

Original Enfield ramrods are being imported from Afghanistan. I got hold of an Mk 4 Snider rod, which was claimed to be a P53 original. It was tapered starting about an inch behind the nose cap and quickly ended up the same diameter as the threads on the threaded end. In front of the nose cap it was standard P53 size but the tulip was more square than round. With a little help from others I convinced the dealer that it was not an original P53 and got my money back. Just a FYI for those trying to buy an original ramrod.

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

Hallo!

Just an aside....

BSAT made "Enfields" are not standardized/interchangeable. Same for the London commercial makers. Meaning, their parts are not 100% identical, but vary a wee bit, between the sundry makers.

Curt

[LeatherHead]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

Only the rifle & rifle-musket ramrods of the English "Enfield" Royal Small Arms Manufactory and private London Armory Company readily interchange betwixt and between one another (like all the rest of the parts.). They are built as "#1" interchangeable arms. The Birmingham contract and London contract arms' rods are all over the map and if a loose rod happens to fit a P53-56-58-60 lacking one, count yourself blessed. Birmingham and London makers built "#2" non-interchangeable guns. A friend with coffee cans of #2 internal lock parts could not discover a tumbler, bridle or whatever to replace missing parts in an original lock. If you score an original #2 gun which lacks a rod, you likely have a bit of a quest in store to find an original rod that fits....

Regards,
Dean Nelson
1st Maryland Infantry, CSA, N-SSA

[GPM]

Re: Original P53 and P58 Enfield Ramrod Dimensions needed

Sorry for the late reply, it's a P 53 and .290 is the nominal diameter.