Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

[mboyd]

Hi All, in my quest for a bayonet for my Armisport 1842 Musket, I found a dealer with a bayonet he says is an US 1842 bayonet, but I'm not sure(he said he did not have an 1842 to try it on, but it did fit on an 1808 musket)........Blade .Length: 18.25 inches
Socket length: 2 5/8 inches
inner diameter of socket: 15/16 inches

The only mark it has is a "D.H." at the top of the blade, no US mark

I'd appreciate comments, Thanks, Mike

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Hallo!

A picture would be worth a thousand words.

But...

The dimensions of U.S. Model 1842 socket bayonet are:

Blade Length 18 inches
Socket Length: 2 5/8
Blade Width: 7/8
Shank Length: 1 1/2
Socket front, OD: 31/32
Socket front, ID: 27/32
Barrel stud on the musket: bottom

Curt

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Hallo!

Moderator hat on:

Herr Mike, it is an AC Forum ruless that all posts be signed with your full name.
You may want to think about using the Automatic Signature feature in your Profile to set a permanent one up.

Curt

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Sorry for the gaff, will do.....as another bayonet question, were some 42 bayonets lacking the US stamping, and is the "D.H." a US manf mark? Thanks for the above, Mike Boyd

[J.H.Berger]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Keep in mind that the french M1822 bayonet is nearly identical. It could be one. As Curt says a photo would help considerably!

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

UNfortunately, I could not lift the photo from the site. Mike

[KPavia]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

What's the link to the site?

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

The site is https://www.simpsonltd.com/product_i...ducts_id+17357

They are calling it MS M1842 Musket Bayonet #C12603

He told me it was on consignment, Thanks, Mike

[dirtyshirt]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Michael,
There is no image in the link. Simpson's is pretty good about identifying what they have. My 1809 and 1822 came from them. However, I would recommend seeing it in person or getting several different photos before purchasing. The 2 weapons I got from them needed some pretty extensive 'polishing' to prepare them for use. Just my .02

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

If you then type in 1842 bayonet in their search engine, it comes up with several pictures, Mike

[dirtyshirt]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Michael,
That is a 1842 style bayonet. The locking ring is a dead give away. Not a bad price either.

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

That is great, thank you Brandon,.....is it a US or French? Mike

[dirtyshirt]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

That I couldn't say for sure. I 'believe' (and am at work so don't have my references) the French and Belgian bayonets were very similar if not identical to the US 1842 Bayonet.

Here is another short thread on the same subject, but pic links don't work.

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?828-confederate-bayonet-markings

The fact that it is not stamped US could very well mean it wasn't made in America, or perhaps by a contractor. Have you perhaps sent College Hill Arsenal a message? They have a lot of good information on the edged weapons they have, and your answer may be there. Either way, I echo the linked thread here in saying even if it is not of US make, it is better quality than the repros available.

[David Fox]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

Late M.1808 Kraut bayonet is, likewise, a snap-fit on a U.S. M.1842, at least on mine. Remember: the U.S. M.1835/40/M.1842 were copied from the French M.1822, I believe, thus simularity is to be expected.

[mboyd]

Re: Is this a 1842 Bayonet ?

I jusy bought the bayonet from Simpson Ltd.I really want to thank everyone who chimed in (esp Brandon) and helped me figure this out. As Brandon said, better than a repro ($50 cheaper as well), at another glance at it before purchase, it was a very nice condition clean bayonet for the price, again, thanks....that is why this site and the people on it are great! Cheers, Mike