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    1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

    Dear all,


    I've just developed an interest in this little gun. Can anybody tell me a bit about it that you can't find on "Wikipedia"? Does anybody know a good place to buy one of these that won't cost an arm and a leg? How possible is it that Western Artillerists in 1862-63 wouldbe found carrying one? I know that most pistols are taboo because they are "unnecessary weight," but I was just wondering. THANKS!
    Taylor Kessen

    5th Ohio Light Artillery Battery and 29th OVI

    Then We shall give them the bayonet!- Jackson
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  • #2
    Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

    If you do a a search at the top of the page, several hits on this come up.
    Fritz Jacobs
    CPT, QM, USAR (Ret)
    [email]CPTFritz@aol.com[/email]

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    • #3
      Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

      I own an original 49' that I bought for around $150 in a pawn shop in Carson City Nevada in 1991. It has an 1864 serial number. As far as I am concerned the 49' is a very under represented firearm.
      Robert Johnson

      "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



      In memory of: William Garry Co.H 5th USCC KIA 10/2/64 Saltville VA.

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      • #4
        Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

        Would one be appropriate for enlisted? I saw several subjects on officers carrying them. Does anybody know any good places to buy? THANKS.........Again!
        Taylor Kessen

        5th Ohio Light Artillery Battery and 29th OVI

        Then We shall give them the bayonet!- Jackson

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        • #5
          Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

          Hallo!

          The M1849 was Colt's second leading revolver, with some 335,000 being made before and after the War. (Second to the M1873 Peacemaker)

          Its military problem was the .31 five shot cylinder (enlarged to six in 1860). It is generally considered a "secondary martial pistol" or less. However, there are "USN" stamped ones. Plus there are military holsters implying that there were open market purchases by the government other than the 4 inch barrel open market purchases- as well as private purchase say as an officer's personal sidearm.

          My wife's great-great uncle, a Federal teamster, had a six inch long barreled version. He committed suicide with in 1867 after losing his arm at Reseca.

          Presently, IMHO... without getting into the discussion of Italian contracts and varying Quality Control export and retail pricing structures:

          Lower end reproductions are offered by Pietta. (Early Pietta worse, current Pietta somewhat much better...)
          Mid range by Uberti.
          Higher mid range, Uberti made for Cimarron Firearms.
          Higher end Colt Black Powder series- with parts made by Uberti, assembled by Iver Johnson, and polished, colored, and finished by to Colt Factory standards by Jovino of New York City.

          And unless researched and documented to the time and place of specific units actually having them, revolvers in the hands of crew-serviced weapons is another discussion altogether.

          Curt
          Last edited by Curt Schmidt; 03-21-2012, 08:19 AM.
          Curt Schmidt
          In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

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          • #6
            Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

            Mr. Schmidt,
            Reenacting was my secondary concearn for it, live fire being my first. I guess I should've made that clear in my initial post. Thank you for your imput, it is very much appreciated!
            Taylor Kessen

            5th Ohio Light Artillery Battery and 29th OVI

            Then We shall give them the bayonet!- Jackson

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            • #7
              Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

              You should be able to get a nice Colt Second Generation revolver on Gunbroker for $800 give or take. Shy of getting an original and having to pay $1,500 or more for one in decent shape, the Second Generations are by far the best option. The only inaccuracy that I have seen on them are that the serial numbers are too straight. On originals the numbers and letters are sometimes uneven due to individual dies being used instead of bar stamps on the reproductions. The search function should pull up a big thread here a while back on the quality of reproductions and an indepth discussion of the Colt Second Generations.

              Regards,
              Garrett Glover
              Garrett Glover

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              • #8
                Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

                If you are going to pay $800 for a repro, you may as well buy an original.
                Robert Johnson

                "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



                In memory of: William Garry Co.H 5th USCC KIA 10/2/64 Saltville VA.

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                • #9
                  Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

                  There sits an original one in Milford Ohio for $650.
                  D. M. Meister


                  Portraying Federal & Confederate medical staff

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                  • #10
                    Re: 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver

                    Taylor,

                    If you can find a copy, P. L. Shumaker's "Colt's Variations of the Old Model Pocket Pistol, 1848 to 1872" is quite good. The author classifies the weapons by barrel marking and serial number, explaining which features appear together on legitimate weapons, and which do not. I do not see a scanned copy on the net, but perhaps interlibrary loan could bring it to your local library.

                    In the back is a table with the approximate serial range for each year of production. 1861 began around 97,000; 1862 around 233,000; 1863 around 250,001; 1864 around 275,000, 1865 around 295,000, and 1866 around 310,000.

                    Best regards,

                    Mark R. Wenger
                    Mark Wenger

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