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A friend has one for sale and he is asking $900. It still cocks in all positions great, good spring and fall. Barrel bore is VERY rough. Stock is a little rough. It looks to be all original but is missing the ramrod. By the way, it is not the one mentioned in my other thread, incase anybody is wondering:) Is $900 a good price?
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Nathan Dodds -
Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
How are the markings? Is it Springfield marked or other...? Overall metal pitting/ discoloration? Is it complete with barrel bands & rear sight? Stock cartouche legible?
These days almost anything complete under $1000 seems to be considered a "good price". Your assessment should be based off of what you intend to do with it. If you're looking to rebuild it as a compliment to your CW impression, then it should at least resemble something that would pass a military inspection. If it's got dark brown metal and heavy pitting...well, you get the idea.
Post pics so some real experts can chime in.
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I'm more looking at the weapon as a wall hanger and a reference for a custom repro build than actual use. I believe it is a contract musket, not actually made by Springfield. it is complete with exception of the ramrod. I'm not sure of the markings. I will be going to see it again tomorrow and I can take some pictures if that would help.Nathan DoddsComment
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Please post pictures. It will give us a better idea of condition/value. In the collectors market right now, $900 would probably be fair for a "fair" condition '61.Tristan GallowayComment
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Go to Gunbroker.com and search completed listings and active listings.
That should give you somewhat of a basis for pricing.Regards,
John Raterink
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Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
Hallo!
As a very General Rule of Thumb, these four factors help set a price:
1. Make, model, variation.
2. Condition, condition, condition
3. Region or area gun is being sold in (sometimes down to particular gun shows and shops. For example often a state-wide show tends to have higher prices than a local... or a "captive audience/market" shop as found in Gettysburg or Sharpsburg will be higher. On-line auctions can very depending upon the seller and buyer-fever.
4. The relationship between the buyer's knowedge of things and the amount of money in his pcket to feed his desire to have something.
A M1861 Springfield, depending upon the above Four, can fetch around here between $400-$500 and $3,000-$3,850ish.
Pictures will help with Nos 1 and 2 above.
CurtCurt Schmidt
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OK, the long awaited pics!
Yeah, it's pretty rough.
Nathan DoddsComment
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Lock:
Markings:
Nathan DoddsComment
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Nathan DoddsComment
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It is actually not all original as I thought... a few of the bands appear to be replacements.
Nathan DoddsComment
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Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
Seems to me that the lock may be from a different gun. I remove the lock and look at the part numbers (if there are any). If it was an arsenal replacement there should be a crude(ish) roman numeral inside which would match the marks any original barrel bands. This would apply if it was an arsenal repair, if not then there would be no marks. Either way I don't think it is worth the $900. With the modern replacement bands and heavy pitting I would just save the money. For a couple hundred more you could do much better. As a matter of fact I think I saw this gun (atleast one very similar) on gunbroker for around $600.
Regards,
Garrett GloverGarrett GloverComment
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Hallo!
Well, I go first I guess.
Around "here," IMHO, I would say $900 is a little highish but not by much. $700-$750 would be closer to "fair-ish" for me to be a buyer at that price. Of course, other's mileage, desire, and willingness to spend...will vary.
I see a mixed "parts gun." For example, the barrel appears to be more aged/weathered than the other metal parts, particularly noticeable by the lockplate below the bolster. I suspect it has a M1855 barrel on it due to the M1855 rear sight and the lack of a bolster "fence." (One could cross-reference match Robinson barrel stamps with Springfield or Harpers Ferry barrel stamps..) Maybe the inspector's name from the cartouche. nd as shared, the barrel bands are off.
On the other hand, if I could get it for $700, or $750, I would lean toward restoring it and replacing the bands, barrel with a custom-built, adding a repro ramrod... and then using it for Living History for about the anticipated price of the new Italian line.
But again... other's mileage, desire, willingness to spend, and "sacrilege" of restoring a relic to its Civil War appearance.. will vary.
CurtCurt Schmidt
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-Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
-Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
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-Vastly Ignorant
-Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.Comment
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Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
Well, I think I'll pass on this one. The seller is a good friend of mine, but he is not willing to go down on it. He will sell it...Nathan DoddsComment
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Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
Not a bad decision. Looking at the condition, with mismatched parts, $900 is probably on the high side for this '63 contract rifle-musket.Originally posted by Nathan Dodds View PostTristan GallowayComment
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Re: What is a reasonable price on an original 61' Springfield?
Looks kind of beat up-- your correct in your decision-- if you want a 61'-- the best place in whole country to buy CW firearms is at the Spring or Fall Nationals in Winchester Virginia, at the NSSA. North South Skirmish Association.. Look it up. The cheapest and best prices in the US are there every National--
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