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[Pvt_Sullivan]

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I see no reason to bellyache at a person who takes proactive steps to protect their well being (careful not to start the age old Health vs. Authenticity argument here). Some people have underlying food or medical issues, or have a work/training schedule that demands speedy recovery from physically demanding events. I was very impressed to see GrumpyDave advocate potassium pills before an event. I find suggestions in these areas to be helpful, inspiring and empowering... knowing that there are other campaigners out there that maintain a high level of authenticity and physical conditioning while employing a regimen of modern supplements to help ensure a long term health like myself. I of course don't advocate the open use of these items at an event, but having them (potassium, endurolytes, supplements, medicines etc..) in your system, part of your training regimen or at your disposal if necessary is a good idea.

One, that wasn't bellyaching... It was the involuntary reaction when someone advocates being a Farb under the guise of "adding" to the work of a man, God rest his soul, who wasn't.

Second, blah, blah, blah... we all got it tough whether it is physical endurance, intestinal fortitude, bank acccount or free time we lack to pursue this activity. Instead of whining about it, get out and prepare yourself and do what you can. If a medical condition is life threatening enough to require special supplements, well maybe that individual needs to think about what he is doing instead of advocating using something unnecessary to carry you through an event.

[Philip cav]

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One, that wasn't bellyaching... It was the involuntary reaction when someone advocates being a Farb under the guise of "adding" to the work of a man, God rest his soul, who wasn't.
If a medical condition is life threatening enough to require special supplements, well maybe that individual needs to think about what he is doing instead of advocating using something unnecessary to carry you through an event.

Sir I don't understand by what you mean by "unnecessary". Now I do not want to argue with you about health vs. authenticity. Being Type 1 Diabetic, I have be very careful about the events I attend. So I do beg to differ with you sir. Also, thanks Mr. Trent and Mrs. Lawson for posting about the recipe. I will look into the food.

[Cyclesmith]

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One, that wasn't bellyaching... It was the involuntary reaction when someone advocates being a Farb under the guise of "adding" to the work of a man, God rest his soul, who wasn't.

Second, blah, blah, blah... we all got it tough whether it is physical endurance, intestinal fortitude, bank acccount or free time we lack to pursue this activity. Instead of whining about it, get out and prepare yourself and do what you can. If a medical condition is life threatening enough to require special supplements, well maybe that individual needs to think about what he is doing instead of advocating using something unnecessary to carry you through an event.

Who said anything about "life-threatening"... I think you are over-exaggerating the point.

[Spinster]

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How Funny, Hank,

The little modern bar always tucked into my deep pocket tastes like........molassas gingerbread with ground up nuts and apples in it.

I look back often at this article and others by Charles Heath.
In the end, they always point to the mindset we all need to have--Doing It Period. Period.

At In The Van, I was still learning how to be a diabetic, but found period solutions at hand all along on that week long trip. When Larry B looked at me and said 'You are not talking in complete sentences, Something is Wrong', and hauled Bobo over there, Bobo was quick to say "Look at me, what do you need?" I could only point at the wagon full of corn. A raw ear of corn, with the worms flicked off, set me straight within little more than a minute.

That same event taught me that there were certain wagoners that had to be 'salted' each day--with about as much rock salt as I could pile up on a quarter. And they'd show up for it just like a deer to a lick.

These days, I find that the hard run of event responsibilites with a large mainstream organization often finds me away from my camp, and somehow, nobody's hauling around a wagon full of corn in shuck. After Shiloh, I've determined to 'do better' in my solutions.

[AndrewGrim]

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I am a type 2 diabetic, it is my responsibility to not be a burden to the rest of the group I am with weather at a campaign event or at a mainstream event.

[Pvt_Sullivan]

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Sir I don't understand by what you mean by "unnecessary". Now I do not want to argue with you about health vs. authenticity. Being Type 1 Diabetic, I have be very careful about the events I attend. So I do beg to differ with you sir. Also, thanks Mr. Trent and Mrs. Lawson for posting about the recipe. I will look into the food.

Phillip, you aren't differing with me, I see it as agreement. An individual with a medical condition requires certain modern medicines and items to maintain their health and chooses what level they can perform at. They don't advocate that anyone should or could just choose what modern supplement they feel they need and slide it in a poke sack so they can get their little fix everyday.

The corrallary to this is, if a participant is not feeling well first the individual, then his mess mates and ultimately his NCOs and Officers should be congnizant enough to identify a problem and then ask for medical aid. Real medical aid. Not some dressed up surgeon or steward, but someone credentialed and current (paramedic, nurse, some other practitioner) to give that aid. Larger events have on hand medical personnel. The smaller events we do in the campaigner world, its up to event organizers to arrange for this. One of the effective systems used was at Into The Piney Woods. There was a specific individual (a qualified EMT) with the column to assess and render first aid, the guide for the column had radio access to various levels of evacution and their route was planned with vehicle road access within I believe no more than2 miles of any portion of the route.

[Daniel]

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This has been a great thread. I did my first long march in years this past winter and I learned some things from it. Most of them have been addressed in this thread but I will repeat them. 1. Always eat your meals even if you do not feel hunger. (As a kid I would go all day without eating anything but I certainly need food for the energy now at my age.) 2. Bring something to eat while you are marching. Like a poke of peanuts. They are period and provide a lot of energy. 3. If you have a difficult time marching in your borgans on asphalt, get some insoles. Few things can be more hard on feet then brogans on asphalt. Happy marching.

Dan Stewart
WIG/Old Guard

[Old Reb]

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Event planning 101.

What can go wrong will go wrong. Be prepared for it!

Individual planning for participation in an event 101.

Same as above.