Support Your Local Cannon-Photos

[NY Pvt]

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No I personally don't know anyone. It is not like it would be a simple thing to do either. That is one big gun and I am sure something like that would need to go before the town board to be approved and there would need to be a pretty good reason. Just curious, why would you want to lift the back end up out of the ground?

[Vuhginyuh]

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To cut down on the corrosion where it rests in the ground.

Chemical rust conversion followed up with neutral coatings and elevating will keep it stable.

It is surprising easly to do and inexpensive too. The biggest chore is getting premission to do it. It can be done in the field.

Contact with soil of any kind is it's worst enemy.

If the moderators will permit me, I will round up a list of tools, treatments and coatings and email them to those who want them. They are all NPS and National Trust recommended materials for ''civilians'', and work very well. They are noninvasive, temporary treatments that can be reversed in the future if something better hits the market, as all conservation treatments should be. I will also get the numbers for the US Government bulletins you can order. You will have to negotiate with the owners/municipalities on your own. Moderators, if this is not a good idea, strike this paragraph.
You can get me at work at Tidelands@msn.com

[mladair]

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One of the original 2.9in Parrott rifles from Battery A, 1st Michigan Light Artillery. Located at the courthouse in Coldwater, Michigan. The carriage is a metal display carriage. Except for the lid, my understanding is that the limber is 100% original.

[SCTiger]

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Ron, Dane and Matt:

Thanks for all the photos, exactly what I wanted to see. Many of these historic but, scattered weapons are neglected by local governments and over time their history and significance are forgotten. The cannon setting on the ground was an example of a poor display that will actually ruin the cannon over time. Garrison is right, that weapon should be elevated and cleaned.

What few historical cannons that did survive the last 140 years and WWII scrap drives, vandalism, poor maintenance etc are treated as generic "civil war cannons", though there was probably an exciting story behind it's capture or acquirement.

Sometimes there are some success stories, but it's mostly because of CW history buffs and reenactors. Here is an example.

See:

http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=civil+war+cannon&page=10&offset=2&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3Dcb0125c63c86bb3c%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D91%26amp%3BuserQuery%3Dcivil%2Bwar%2Bcannon%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fnautarch.tamu.edu%252FCRL%252FReport6%252Funion.htm%26amp%3BinvocationType%3Dnext%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPNextPrev&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnautarch.tamu.edu%2FCRL%2FReport6%2Funion.htm

Dane, that was a great set of pictures, I believe that could be a "Blakely" gun with the band in the center, I will have to break out my identification book and study the different pieces.

Sadly most outside pieces are being damaged by pollution and neglect through corrosion, acid rain and vandalism.

[Vuhginyuh]

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Notice the small stack of shells behind the gun. Someone, in the distant past, managed to pry one loose and get it stuck in the muzzle of one of the guns, most of the way in. Unless it arrived in town that way. :)

Ron Myzie

Better than the PBR cans in the tubes at the NC Capital Square.
I do think they are now sealed.

[Vuhginyuh]

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I like how they have chained this mammoth to the base with lock and key! If someone had the equipment required to move this peice, they would have the equipment to cut the darn chain.

I moved three nice Napoleons from their monument in Detroit not too long ago, boy it was great to be able to load these beauties onto a truck and drive them down Woodward! People sure give you some funnny looks!

It does look like a ''municipality driven'' decision to lock it up for safe keep'n...but maybe it is just to keep some fool from depressing the muzzle. I fool like me. I got in one of the block mounted tubes at Sumter some years back and panicked, it took three bribbing Rangers and my dad threatening to leave me there if I didn't make up mind that I could get out...

[Chris Curtis]

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There are a couple napoleons here in stoughton, and 2 naval cannon in Exeter- I'll try to get some pictures of them. There were actually 3 naval cannon, but about 20 years ago some high school kids put some dynamite down the barrel and blew it to pieces- some supposedly landed about 30 miles away(don't know if that's true or not).

[SCTiger]

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While traveling through Burke County, Georgia, I found two more U. S. cannons standing guard at the county courthouse in Waynesboro, Georgia at 6th Street and Liberty St. (GA HWY 25). US 1862 Ames Manufacturing Co. # 76 and another US Revere Copper Co. # 405, 1864. In the wide courthouse photo, the Ames is on the left and the Revere on the right.

[tomarch]

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Here's our Parrott standing guard by the CA. Nat'l Guard Armoury

[tomarch]

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Picked up some shots of a 32pdr. Dalhgren in San Luis Obispo. In addition to seeing lot of "Boys in Blue" resting there, I also found one fellow who moved a long, long way from home.....

[major]

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[Minieball577]

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I will try to load the images at a later date...stupid 21st Century technology...

[10TnVI]

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'The seventh cannon is in the Rhinebeck cemetery in front of a monument that honor the 150th NY, 128th NY, 80th NY (I am assuming this was the unit that was better known as the 20th NYSM), and the 44th NY. I could not find any legible markings nor was their a marker. However, It looked as if at the end of the cannon the word "Phil." was written there but I could not tell for sure. What type of gun is this? (Pictures 19-21)'

This appears to be a 4.5 inch Army Seige rifle. Same basic lines as a 3 inch rifle but alot bigger.

[Yellowhammer]

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Guys,

Here is a roster of all the guns in NPS collections. I'm not sure if the list is 100% complete but it is an extremely useful resource since it included info like location, manufacturer, tube number, etc...

http://www.cwartillery.org/ws-reg.html

Enjoy!

[Ridge Runner]

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Here at Clemson University there are two field pieces mounted on concrete mounts over looking Bowman Field. I don't know any history of these guns. They are marked "AMES", I know little to nothing about cannons. Clemson was a former Military College, there is also a WW1 (?) era field piece on a carriage infront of the ROTC building. I attached an image of the two pieces, but it was taken a pretty good distance away. I don't have any better one right now.

Roman Fox
Roman, please sign all posts with your full name - Mike Chapman