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  • Possible Buckshot Struck Button

    Gents-

    I came across this item today and thought I would share it. Follow the link below to a relic dealer that has a federal eagle button that was recovered at a middle Tennesse battlefield site. Bullet/buckshot struck who can say for sure but interesting nonetheless.

    Pan down to item # 4.

    Louis Zenti

    Pvt. Albert R. Cumpston (Company B, 12th Illinois Vol. Inf.-W.I.A. February 15, 1862)
    Pvt. William H. Cumpston (Company B, 12th Illinois Vol. Inf.-K.I.A. February 15, 1862 Ft. Donelson)
    Pvt. Simon Sams (Co. C, 18th Iowa Inf.-K.I.A. January 8, 1863 Springfield, MO)
    Pvt. Elisha Cox (Co. C, 26th North Carolina Inf.-W.I.A. July 3, 1863 Gettysburg)

    "...in the hottest of the fight, some of the rebs yelled out...them must be Iowa boys". Charles O. Musser 29th Iowa Infantry

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    Re: Possible Buckshot Struck Button

    Hallo!



    Always a possibility, not likely a probability.

    NOT saying it is, but....

    There is a whole field or area of fakes involving belt and breast plates and projectiles. The more "sophisticated" of the counterfeits involve using an original plate and an original projectile so that "indeed" the thing appears to have age and patina.

    IMHO, for the undamaged bucksot to have hit a brass button and not be deformed but permantly stuck into it with so little distortion and not being defleclting off at an angle... plus the deformation of the brass is in the opposite direction of the ball strike implying that it struck from the top down. well a bit too much for me.
    But granted a Federal could have been falling forward or lying on the ground exposing the top of the button to the path of the ball....

    At any rate, the pieces here do not add up to a compelling and believeable story, IMHO.

    Not saying it is a fake or fraud.... but I would not be a buyer, others might.

    Others' mileage may vary...

    Curt
    Student of the Culture of Fakery and Counterfeiting Mess
    Last edited by Curt Schmidt; 03-05-2013, 03:10 PM.
    Curt Schmidt
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    • #3
      Re: Possible Buckshot Struck Button

      Gents-

      I would not disagree with Curt's assessment except that I don't think they were implying THAT particular buckshot hit the button rather that the indentation was about the size of one.

      I too am less inclined to believe the button was Civil War projectile "struck". The angle as Curt mentioned is rather odd and I would think even a buckshot would tear a thin piece of brass like that to shreds. But who knows? The button was certainly hit/damaged by something. We will probably never know for sure but the possibility of it having been found on a battlefield in middle Tennessee and having that size of a dent is interesting.

      I guess the question should be put to our relic digging pards. Is a button with this sort of damage uncommon? And what are their thoughts?
      Louis Zenti

      Pvt. Albert R. Cumpston (Company B, 12th Illinois Vol. Inf.-W.I.A. February 15, 1862)
      Pvt. William H. Cumpston (Company B, 12th Illinois Vol. Inf.-K.I.A. February 15, 1862 Ft. Donelson)
      Pvt. Simon Sams (Co. C, 18th Iowa Inf.-K.I.A. January 8, 1863 Springfield, MO)
      Pvt. Elisha Cox (Co. C, 26th North Carolina Inf.-W.I.A. July 3, 1863 Gettysburg)

      "...in the hottest of the fight, some of the rebs yelled out...them must be Iowa boys". Charles O. Musser 29th Iowa Infantry

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