Pedersoli uh oh!

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

Thanks to all the lads who took up arms, and thanks to Pedersoli for listening!!

Curt

(Hopefully, not too many were made and sold!!!)

[Craig L Barry]

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I know Pedersoli heard from John Holland, Chairman of the N-SSA Small Arms Committee, he informed them the version with the clean out screw was not approved for use in N-SSA competition. Pederoli also heard from a number of us that nobody in their right mind would buy that abomination and they would likely lose sales to Armi Sport.

There is a language barrier all right, but losing money is a concept that cuts through any quirks in the English to Italian translation software pretty fast.

[Nibs]

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Result! Congratulations to those who made this happen.

Regards,

[Todd Watts]

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I believe that the N-SSA and reenactors raised such an immediate screech and howl about this that they realized they were about to essentially lose 90% of their sales. They of course would never admit to that, but it was pretty obvious from the immediate reversal without argument. On the plus side, anyone unlucky enough to have acquired one with the clean-out screw should retire it without use and save it for it will be a collectible someday. LOL

[maillemaker]

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Yup. Social media is indeed a powerful tool. When things start getting discussed and shared in social media, it grows like a snowball with the potential for massive public exposure.

Steve

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

Very true.

When I was just getting started, we communicated by digging clay and making tablets. Then writing a note with a sharp stick. Then waiting for the clay to dry before sending it by courier or beast.

This cyber stuff is great when it works.

Curt

[Craig L Barry]

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Well, if you want an example (in a nutshell) of the longstanding disconnect between the Italian Civil War repro gun-makers and their customers, here this is. It really makes you scratch your head in wonder.

[Johnny Lloyd]

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Honestly, I don't know why most of our hobby's muskets are made in a country where reenacting force on force battles is illegal like Italy. They must have been established before it was outlawed, I guess.

[Pritchett Ball]

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I hate to ask what would the repro's we buy today from Europe, COST if they were made here in the US?

[thomas aagaard]

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Honestly, I don't know why most of our hobby's muskets are made in a country where reenacting force on force battles is illegal like Italy. They must have been established before it was outlawed, I guess.

Curious, what makes you think that it is illegal in Italy?

Not saying you are wrong, just that I never hear any indication that this was the case.

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

I can not speak about Italy, but "reenacting" is alive and well in other 'Euro" countries, say like Germany (well not so much WWII.. ;) :) ). And not so much in 'Wild West" where revolvers are metallic cartridge and they have to use C & B versions of say the Colt M1873.

Especially "Napoleonic."

I also cannot speak to musket prices. But, in years past (so-called) American made Colt M1873 revolvers were around $2,000 while Italian imports were $300-$400-ish. Or when Smith & Wesson went to make a S & W "Schofield" for $1800 at a time when the Italian repro was say $500ish.

Curt

[NMVolunteer]

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It does not look particularly illegal. And from Pedersoli's own website...

[Johnny Lloyd]

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When I did the Battle of Waterloo in 2005 in Belgium we had Italians with us. They said they could not reenact in their own country because it was illegal back then for force on force events. Perhaps this has changed in 12 years?

[Nibs]

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Curious, what makes you think that it is illegal in Italy?

Not saying you are wrong, just that I never hear any indication that this was the case.

If it was, it's not illegal anymore. To follow-on from Michael's post, I had some friends participating at Marengo last month and they indicated that it was a run of the mill, force on force event.

[JPurdy]

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Well said, Mr. Sheldon.