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  • #46
    Re: History in the Classrooms-- I Agree

    Hello I agree with this premise.. But you still have to study some sort of history of America and what it is tobe American. The Presidents, the States, and your own hometown is a start. Yes, teach them to read and write first, and stress math and science. History and Sociology later.

    History is a funny subject. As a kid you either hate it or love it. I loved it as I bet most of you on this Forum. Yes, I had some bad teachers, but I still read about things on my own. As a 12 year old I could recognize every fighter plane of the 2nd World War and WW1 too. {that was strange} but I made model airplanes and flew them as a kid-- so I was interested in planes.

    As a parent you have to work with your kids-- Took my step- son to Gettysburg when he was 13, and although he really had no grasp of Civil War History, 20 years later he brought it up with the classic, "remember when we went to Gettysburg!!" Foster all of the kids interests whatever it is.

    Tom Arliskas
    CSUNIFORMS
    Cadet Gray and Butternut Brown Author.
    Tom Arliskas

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    • #47
      Re: History in the Classrooms

      Just a quick note here.
      I was getting a haircut yesterday. The lady that was cutting my hair did not know where Gettyburg was or what was fought there and believe it or not had lived in Penn. for a while. I did give her an ear full and all she said was I am not into that political stuff She was above 50 years old.
      Jim "Doc" Bruce
      War means fightn and fightn means killn.
      L 'audace, l 'audace, Toujours l 'audace.
      Every man must know his limitations.

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      • #48
        Re: History in the Classrooms

        Until recently, the New Jersey legislature was going to introduce bills or some such to remove the teaching of Memorial Day in it's public schools. It was decided that this would not be the best course of action to pursue.

        I have found that in most living history venues I have been a part of the educatee (for lack of a better term), doesn't know about a lot of what we are trying to impart. Modern educators, I am told, have to cover so much material in 180 days, that they just cannot hit it all. I've also watched other forums where teachers are only covering what is on standardized testing.

        I believe we do our children a disservice when we "gloss over" or dumb-down history just so they may pass a test. Teaching should be augmented with home learning about particular subjects. Just make sure you're teaching your child with an impartial eye, and cover all aspects so they aren't learning a one-sided opinion.
        William Lee Vanderburg
        26th NCT

        Robert S. Bowers / 4th NC
        Calvin Spry / 57th NC

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        • #49
          Re: History in the Classrooms

          Well as I High School senior in Savannah, Georgia I have to say that I am happy with the knowledge I attained in my AP US History class. We spent plenty of time on the causes of the Civil War as well as the Civil War itself. This was a mostly Afro-American class but nobodys feelings were hurt. There are always going to be a few exceptions I guess this class was one of them.
          Last edited by Horton; 02-27-2007, 05:58 PM. Reason: spelling
          [I]Sam Horton[/I]
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          • #50
            Re: History in the Classrooms

            I was in the accelerated World History class, and the AG US History class, received numerous awards in each, and I wasn't satisfied with history as it was presented. However, this was 22 to 23 years ago. I think the only reason I excelled in those classes is because it spurred me to find out more than the teacher was willing or could impart to us.
            William Lee Vanderburg
            26th NCT

            Robert S. Bowers / 4th NC
            Calvin Spry / 57th NC

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            • #51
              Re: History in the Classrooms

              Until recently, the New Jersey legislature was going to introduce bills or some such to remove the teaching of Memorial Day in it's public schools. It was decided that this would not be the best course of action to pursue

              It's rough having to live in a "blue" state.
              Frank Perkin

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              • #52
                Re: History in the Classrooms

                Originally posted by unclefrank View Post
                Until recently, the New Jersey legislature was going to introduce bills or some such to remove the teaching of Memorial Day in it's public schools. It was decided that this would not be the best course of action to pursue

                It's rough having to live in a "blue" state.
                It's going to work best for all of us if we steer clear of the political discussions.
                Paul Calloway
                Proudest Member of the Tar Water Mess
                Proud Member of the GHTI
                Member, Civil War Preservation Trust
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                • #53
                  Re: History in the Classrooms

                  Originally posted by unclefrank View Post
                  Until recently, the New Jersey legislature was going to introduce bills or some such to remove the teaching of Memorial Day in it's public schools. It was decided that this would not be the best course of action to pursue

                  It's rough having to live in a "blue" state.
                  This doesn't make any sense at all, and sounds like the same sort of paranoid boogeyman talk that also causes someone every few months or so to warn us all that the Jersey legislature is going to take away historic guns and end reenacting.

                  It's a national holiday. The schools are off. Would they somehow supercede Federal legislation to remove Memorial Day as a holiday, keeping the schools open? Then, it'd be pretty weird if every other civil servant had the day off but teachers. The unions would have a flip out. Or would they change the name to something like "Deceased Soldier Appreciation Day"?

                  And, Jersey teachers still have leeway in their classes, setting up how they teach and what they teach as long as basic topics are covered as outlined in the State Core Curriculum. Heck... I had a teacher teach about some weird conspiracy theories, and said that the Irish potato famine happened in the 1880s and was caused by a drought.
                  If I wanted to spend 25 minutes talking about Memorial Day, I could.
                  Last edited by ThehosGendar; 02-27-2007, 10:27 PM. Reason: Snarkiness.
                  Jason R. Wickersty
                  http://www.newblazingstarpress.com

                  Received. “How now about the fifth and sixth guns?”
                  Sent. “The sixth gun is the bully boy.”
                  Received. “Can you give it any directions to make it more bully?”
                  Sent. “Last shot was little to the right.”
                  Received. “Fearfully hot here. Several men sunstruck. Bullets whiz like fun. Have ceased firing for awhile, the guns are so hot."

                  - O.R.s, Series 1, Volume 26, Part 1, pg 86.

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