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    Hey everyone,

    There's a new board open to help reenactors and living historians make the transition to actors and background actors in historical productions. The board has information forums and FAQs, as well as discussion areas for living historians to discuss how to improve the quality of historical productions.

    We all know that historical productions to date have all had aspects that make us cringe, and that reenactors are often not used to the best of their abilities by production companies worried more about money than authenticity. Now it's time to change that!

    This board is new, but will grow in time as members start contributing. It will have articles and tips from film industry professionals as well as living historians who have worked in the industry and have their own input. But the most important sections will be the discussion forums, which is where all of you come in!

    So stop by and check it out. The board is called, get this, the Film And Reenacting Board (FARB).

    http://p068.ezboard.com/bfilmandreenactingboard
    Jared Morrison
    [email]bob@jaredmorrison.com[/email]

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    Re: Improving Film and TV Productions

    Originally posted by smithjub View Post
    Hey everyone,

    There's a new board open to help reenactors and living historians make the transition to actors and background actors in historical productions.
    Jared,

    With all the due respect I can muster, you have GOT to be kidding me.
    Originally posted by smithjub View Post
    The board has information forums and FAQs, as well as discussion areas for living historians to discuss how to improve the quality of historical productions.
    Living Historians have absolutely no power or say so in improving the authenticity of film and television productions, so why should they waste their time discussing something they can do nothing about? The main problem with the vast majority of film and television productions depicting historical events and time periods is that the production companies, producers, directors, writers, etc., aren't committed enough to authenticity to bother with getting it right. Many times it boils down to budgetary factors, they would rather spend the money necessary to 'get it right' on other aspects. Accurate costumes cost money, technical experts to coach the actors in terms of all aspects of the historical time period costs money, research takes too much time, and we all know that in the entertainment industry, "time is money."

    This is the reason so many of them turn to the reenacting community for sheep to fill their on screen herds. They bring along their own costuming and equipment, no matter what degree of quality, and it won't cost the production diddly squat. To a production company with a finite budget, free = GOOD. Quality takes a backseat in such cases.
    Originally posted by smithjub View Post
    We all know that historical productions to date have all had aspects that make us cringe, and that reenactors are often not used to the best of their abilities by production companies worried more about money than authenticity. Now it's time to change that!
    I still don't understand how a bunch of hobbyists on the outside of the industry are supposed to change the industry. Are reenactors with better quality impressions supposed to drop everything to participate in film and television shoots for free so that production companies will choose them over farbs? That's pretty unrealistic considering the vast majority of reenactors aren't actors by trade, and so, have actual lives and a thing called a job outside of the entertainment industry. And most of them would rather focus their time on quality events for their own enjoyment and experience rather than play "look at me." Add to that, there are multitudes of reenactors without a solid commitment to authenticity that will climb over each other to be first in line for a chance to be in a movie or TV show, so any kind of threatened boycott unless authenticity improves is going to be ineffective from the outset. Letter writing campaigns? Phone calls? Come on. Any improvement will have to come from within the industry itself. Granted, there might be a production every once in a while that may take a stab at it, but I don't really see that happening on a large scale.
    Originally posted by smithjub View Post
    The board is called, get this, the Film And Reenacting Board (FARB).
    Quite apropos acronym IMHO.

    Well, good luck. I'm just too busy banging my head against enough walls of my own right now to join you.
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    • #3
      Re: Improving Film and TV Productions

      Fatback-

      Cynicism... you have every right. Hollyweird has been the ones that have been screwing things up in the history department for the past 50+ years due to a variety of the reasons you so eloquently list above.

      What was once "It's just a movie..." turned into people thinking women in the 1860s all wore bangs. Loads worse damage to our American heritage and history has been done by that establishment in the past.

      Thank "Gone with the Wind"... :baring_te:p

      It's a nice, amusing IDEA for a board and one that I'll watch at a distance, but don't be fooled into thinking Holly-whacko will turn around anytime soon because of the "petty mewing" of some "reenactors."

      It's a blatant fact that Hollywood has a group social agenda of downright anti-Americanism and that includes slowly eroding our proud American Heritage. Why would they want to hear ANYONE even trying to tell the truth of research and scholarly study?

      It's sad, but if Hollywood would tell the REAL stories of history the way we know them to have happened based on thorough research, then they could come-up with exciting movies that would be better than what utterly mindless drivel they could make up.

      But really, it comes down to the bottom line... money.

      My .02 cents... in specie and not currency -Johnny
      Last edited by Johnny Lloyd; 09-09-2007, 01:07 AM.
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      • #4
        Improving Film and TV Productions, Take 2 (Please Read)

        As you may have seen, I have created a board for reenactors and living historians who want to do more work in the film and television industry.

        Unfortunately, a couple of ignorant people with no ties to the entertainment industry desided to trash my post rather than actually look at the board and see what it is about. Most of the points made in the responses to my first post actually go against everything the board is for, but they didn't know that because they chose instead to just bash the whole idea without doing any research.

        The board is designed to educate reenactors and living historians who want to work in film and television in order to help them make the transition from reenactor to actor. It's also for living historians who want to work in other aspects of the industry in order to improve the quality of film and TV productions.

        If you have no desire to work in the industry, just ignore the board. But if you are one of the many living historians dedicated to improving historical productions by bringing your expertise as a consultant, wardrobe, hair/make-up, or actor, this is a good board for you. If you think change or improvement is impossible, you are wrong.

        So stop by and check it out. If you aren't interested, just ignore it and move on.

        Thanks,
        Jared
        Jared Morrison
        [email]bob@jaredmorrison.com[/email]

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        • #5
          Re: Improving Film and TV Productions, Take 2 (Please Read)

          I wanna get into comedy........

          Can FARB help out?

          :party:
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

          Aaron Schwieterman
          Cincinnati

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            Re: Improving Film and TV Productions, Take 2 (Please Read)

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