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Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Personally, I have always been partial to the Confederate Zombie movie in which the Johnnies return from the dead to savagely kill and devour their modern-day Union counterparts...The name of this most daring and authentic movie escapes me tho'...Best regards!
Tom "Mingo" Machingo
Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess
Vixi Et Didici
"I think and highly hope that this war will end this year, and Oh then what a happy time we will have. No need of writing then but we can talk and talk again, and my boy can talk to me and I will never tire of listening to him and he will want to go with me everywhere I go, and I will be certain to let him go if there is any possible chance."
Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
KIA Petersburg, Virginia
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Tom,
Are you refering to "Gray Night" or the Ghost brigade" it went by both names. Its a turner flick with martin Sheen, Corbin bernson and billy bob Thorton? In the end the yankee who is sent to find the dead rebels teams up with some living confederates to defeat them with silver tipped bayonets? It's a hoot, and it appears to have been made the same time as Gettysburg and martin sheen was barrowed from that set to play Lee in blue coat....lol. If you want a good laugh its worth a rental.
but, my .02 on the subject is similar to what was mentioned earlier, so far we haven't had a perfect Civil War flick, but we've had some who were good from one angel or another, like good uniforms in "Wicked Spring", or in my opinion a history heavy (for hollywood) "Gods and Generals". I think any movie that helps generate interest in the time period we love is good, reguardless of it lack of total autheticity.
anyone watch "pharoah army" or the "Colt" neither perfect but both have thier merits.
Robert Ambrose
Park Ranger
Fort Frederick State Park, Maryland
5th Virginia Infantry Co. K
Since everyone enjoyed Ride with the Devil, what are the thoughts on Gangs of New York? Better actors in Gangs of New York....
Hard to watch with Daniel Day-Lewis, impossible to watch without him. Not even funny bad. The only thing that could make this movie enjoyable is if you entered into it with absolutely no knowledge of US History, history in general, Catholicism, speech patterns, etc., etc. That's not even getting to, ahem, 'Leo'.
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Oh, yeah no one has mentioned Andersonville. I know its no perfect but I think its brings to life some of the realities of what happened there, I know I have enjoyed watching it.
Robert Ambrose
Park Ranger
Fort Frederick State Park, Maryland
5th Virginia Infantry Co. K
Personally, I have always been partial to the Confederate Zombie movie in which the Johnnies return from the dead to savagely kill and devour their modern-day Union counterparts...The name of this most daring and authentic movie escapes me tho'...Best regards!
I agree. You can't go wrong with antebellum zombies. That's why I'm such a fan of 2001 Maniacs. You can't understand the military side of a conflict with out understanding the civilian side as well. Freddy Kreuger waving battleflags and hosting "BAAHH B Q's". Fun stuff.
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
I am surprised that more of the Ted Turner Movies haven't been talked about.
Besides Gods and Generals and Gettysburg, he made four other Civil War movies in the 90s:
-Andersonville
-The Day Lincoln Was Shot
-The Hunley
-Ironclads
Any opinions on those? I wish they would put Hunley on DVD so I could see it again. I can only remember it briefly. Of the whole "Turner Civil War Saga" as you could call it, I think Andersonville is the most interesting, with the Hunley. Gettysburg is good, but the other two I think are made more interesting in that you don't have the "Gods of the Civil War" (the big names you read in the textbooks) in them.
David Fictum,
Member of the Pennsylvania College Guard,
recent member of the 2nd WI, Co A
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Hmmm, Watching "Johnny Shiloh" forever sealed my interest in the WBTS, so here's a related trivia question: Who has been in more TV and silver screen productions related to the American Civil War -- Donald Sutherland or Clint Eastwood?
Answer to follow ...
No googling 'til you guess!
Paul Hadley
Journey to Shiloh has to rank among the all time turkeys.
Isn't that the one that has the dude playing Braxton Bragg (who looked a lot more like Ed Asner than Bragg) picking his personal scouts by watching the guy break a horse?
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Here's what I think -- Donald 4, Clint 2.
Sutherland --
Narrator for Red Badge of Courage, roles in Hunley, Cold Mountain and Oldest Confederate Widow Tells All.
Eastwood --
Major roles in The Beguiled and Outlaw Josey Wales -- with 3 spaghetti westerns having loose post-war WBTS influence on character development, so perhaps those shouldn't count.
Can you name any more?
Paul
"Film is plastic" -- scrawled on screening room wall at my undergrad school ...
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
Yes...Grey Night - that's it!!! Great entertainment value if you're looking for a good laugh!!! Thanks for providing the title for all of us wanna-be Confed Zombies...LOL
Tom "Mingo" Machingo
Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess
Vixi Et Didici
"I think and highly hope that this war will end this year, and Oh then what a happy time we will have. No need of writing then but we can talk and talk again, and my boy can talk to me and I will never tire of listening to him and he will want to go with me everywhere I go, and I will be certain to let him go if there is any possible chance."
Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
KIA Petersburg, Virginia
Re: Best Civil War films (or rather, the lack thereof)...
I found North & South amusing at the time, and I made some good money as an extra. Some people on the production team actually tried to get a decent look out of the thing within the constraints of Hollywood. I, um how shall I say this, "borrowed" Phil Sheridan's hat at the end of filming (they had a few of em'). Outlaw Josie Wales got me interested in the border conflict more when I was a kid, I wanted to learn about Red Legs etc.... I know its post war but I enjoyed Son of The Morning Star as well. Having worked in Hollywood at one time I can tell you how lucky you are to get ANY thing close to correct in a historical film. Funny though I used to do prop work and walked into a room full of ORIGINAL Federal mounted services jackets once, made me wonder why cav in movies always have 1880's 5 button sacks on not matter what the period being portrayed....
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