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    Wow! Loudoun County really does have tough challenges ahead with folk's campaigning issues like this. They are obviously not fans of historic preservation. This is ridiculous.


    Loudoun Leader Blasts Slow-Growth Efforts
    Republican Says ‘Sprawl is the American Dream’
    By Andrew Martel
    The Winchester Star
    Thursday, March 4, 2004

    Want to keep that beautiful vista of rolling fields and mountains out your back window?

    Better buy it.

    That would be cheaper than letting local government preserve it, said Suzanne Volpe, former chairwoman of the Loudoun County Republican Committee.

    But some residents think the way to preserve open spaces and the rural character is through state and local government regulations.

    Nonsense, Volpe said, in a scathing indictment against the slow-growth movement to the Winchester-Frederick-Clarke Republican Women’s Club.

    Loudoun County residents know a thing or two about residential and commercial development; the county’s population doubled between 1991 and 1999. The change has raised concerns over traffic and prompted a school building boom.

    Speaking at the club’s luncheon Wednesday, Volpe said the slow-growth movement imposed unfair restrictions on landowners. People who just moved into the county were starting movements to keep other newcomers out, Volpe said.

    “Everyone wants to be the last person on the block,” she said in front of the 30 Republican women gathered at Shenandoah Valley Westminster Canterbury.

    But the land everyone wants to preserve is probably owned by someone else, Volpe said. That farming family may want to sell off part of their property at some point.

    “Nobody wants to buy the land,” to protect it, Volpe said. “They want the government to buy the land.”

    But when the Loudoun Board of Supervisors started imposing stricter land-use and zoning rules, homeowners were unfairly targeted, Volpe said. She cited one case where a 200-acre landowner was unable to build another house on the property because of various historic and open space preservation rules.

    The effect of these rules raised housing prices, because fewer new homes under construction resulted in higher demand, Volpe said.

    But as home values go up, so do assessments, and with that, property taxes, she said.

    In three years, Loudoun County’s budget went up 68 percent.

    The slow-growth movement wants to control home construction. But for many families, home ownership is their only major investment.

    “Sprawl is the American dream,” said Volpe, who is also president of her homeowner’s association, which she said includes 6,000 units and a budget of more than $3 million.

    Not everyone sees it that way.

    “Uncontrolled growth is the problem,” said Joe Maio, spokesman for the Leesburg-based group Voters to Stop Sprawl.

    Each new house built costs $35,000 in road construction, utilities, and other public facilities, Maio said — and that doesn’t count the average cost of $10,000 per student in Loudoun County, Maio said.

    “There is no way a house pays that much in taxes,” Maio said.

    Loudoun voters at first embraced the slow-growth movement, electing a slate of candidates to the Board of Supervisors in 1999. Four years later, they rejected the slow-growth platform, electing six Republicans to the board in 2003.

    “We’re making good changes,” Volpe said.

    Frederick County also had a Republican sweep in November, with those calling for slow or smart growth rejected. Still, Volpe warned Frederick and Clarke residents to watch out for calls for slow growth.
    Last edited by Matthew.Rector; 03-04-2004, 09:07 AM.
    Matthew Rector

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    Not an Accountant

    "Each new house built costs $35,000 in road construction, utilities, and other public facilities, Maio said — and that doesn’t count the average cost of $10,000 per student in Loudoun County, Maio said.

    “There is no way a house pays that much in taxes,” Maio said. "

    1. The infrastucture charge is mostly a one time fee....and some of those items last 100 years with reasonable maintenance costs. Over the life of the home/improved property those costs are paid for by property taxes. or not paid based on the county and local governments ability to live a fiscally responsible life.

    2. Houses don't add students to the schools....students do. If the new houses attract student aged children (as opposed to adult aged children???!!!) that's life, no need to penalize new homes for having kids versus old.

    3. Property taxes are paid yearly, so are state and govenment school subsidies...... if that can't cover the $10,000 per pupil expenditure then time to work on revenue raising and cost lowering. They're charging $75 per sport per athlete per Semester here in Wheaton, for example. Football is $100 per athlete in the fall, and $50 in the Spring. And Football is a MONEY MAKER. PTA fund raisers help raise money for many school functions, field trips, new computers, etc.

    Wolf Lady needs to WAKE UP......

    RJ Samp
    RJ Samp
    (Mr. Robert James Samp, Junior)
    Bugle, Bugle, Bugle

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      Re: Not an Accountant

      1. The infrastucture charge is mostly a one time fee....and some of those items last 100 years with reasonable maintenance costs. Over the life of the home/improved property those costs are paid for by property taxes. or not paid based on the county and local governments ability to live a fiscally responsible life.

      RJ, how many 100 year old roads are you aware of? At my current tax rate, I would cover the expense in 10 years. How many times will that road need plowing, cleaning, pot-hole repair, tree removal, etc in that time period?

      2. Houses don't add students to the schools....students do. If the new houses attract student aged children (as opposed to adult aged children???!!!) that's life, no need to penalize new homes for having kids versus old.

      Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand this statement at all. Kids don't buy houses. I think that the argument being made is that without the houses, there will be no additional children to pay for.

      3. Property taxes are paid yearly, so are state and govenment school subsidies...... if that can't cover the $10,000 per pupil expenditure then time to work on revenue raising and cost lowering.

      They are complaining about real estate values going up because of too few housing units. How will they feel if they need to raise taxes to cover this?

      They're charging $75 per sport per athlete per Semester here in Wheaton, for example. Football is $100 per athlete in the fall, and $50 in the Spring. And Football is a MONEY MAKER. PTA fund raisers help raise money for many school functions, field trips, new computers, etc.

      Wolf Lady needs to WAKE UP......

      You sound like the developer who proffers land or money for a new school to accomodate all the new children that the subdivision will bring in. Big deal! What about the cost associated with building the school, maintaining the school, staffing the school???? Who pays for that? YOU DO, after you've bought the house. And the developer skips to the bank, whistling the sucker's tune..............

      RJ Samp[/QUOTE]
      Mike "Dusty" Chapman

      Member: CWT, CVBT, NTHP, MOC, KBA, Stonewall Jackson House, Mosby Heritage Foundation

      "I would have posted this on the preservation folder, but nobody reads that!" - Christopher Daley

      The AC was not started with the beginner in mind. - Jim Kindred

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        Re: Not an Accountant

        We're battling similar situations out here in Idaho--no CW sites to preserve, but there are plenty of other historic things needing preservation, even with the relatively short "history" of settlement out here... and the spread of the McSuburb is a constant threat. The biggest problem, though, is an uniformed citizenry who do not excercise their rights and responsibilities to be an educated voter, and hold politicians and officials accountable for their actions. Far too many just toodle along in their lives, blythely unaware of anything going on at all.

        It's much the same way in other places: folks have to decide what's important, and arrange the local political structure to meet that need. $10K per student? How 'bout cut administration staff at the district level--around here, a teacher makes $32K, and the Hydra that is the superintendant's office has multiple pencil-pushers making over $150K. Rapidly inflating "budgets?" Get a voter's referendum for caps and limits, and vote out of office those who don't support them. Want to preserve historic areas without excessive taxation? Vote in property tax limits, and make it easier for people to buy a wider piece of land to hold onto.

        I don't want to turn this into a modern political stump, so I'll close. If you want a change, start at home: start encouraging those you know to become AWARE of the preservation issues right at home, and get INVOLVED in finding solutions, and hold officials responsible for their actions.
        Regards,
        Elizabeth Clark

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