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    Taken from their Facebook page.

    Public Statement from the Board of Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc.
    May 23, 2017
    The Board of the Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. is sad to announce that the museum, located on Nash Farm Battlefield, which was funded and maintained by our group, will close effective June 1, 2017. The main reason is that the current District 2 Commissioner, Dee Clemmons, has requested that ALL Confederate flags be removed from the museum, in addition to the gift shop, in an effort not to offend anyone. For anyone who studies the American Civil War, or War Between the States, they realize there were two parties that fought in this war. We have always prided ourselves with being an unbiased museum that told the entire story of the battles that took place on this property, as well as being a voice of the people in Henry County and Georgia during this time. These stories were told mainly through primary sources, sometimes secondary, but never tertiary sources. To exclude any Confederate flag would mean the historical value has been taken from our exhibits, and a fair interpretation could not be presented to each guest. Confederate flags were on this hallowed ground, as were the Union flags. To remove either of them would be a dishonor.
    Additionally, Commissioner Clemmons stated that this property, which the county spent in excess of $8 million dollars, has no historical significance per the current board. Interestingly, the Department of Interior has recognized this property as core battlefield and there is a primary source where a request is made that the government pay retribution for the damage to the property during the battle. This is clear proof of the historical basis of this property; yet, more could be provided if necessary. This property has the blood of Union and Confederate soldiers in the soil and needs to be preserved as the battlefield that it is.
    The Board of the Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. complied when Commissioner Clemmons requested, soon after her taking office, that the entrenchments be removed from the property. When she had the Second National Confederate Flag removed from the flag pole where it has been flying since Henry County purchased the property, again we complied and did not create a disturbance in hopes that the museum would be left alone. The final order from Commissioner Clemmons is one that we cannot and will not comply with. We were told that we are at the “pleasure of the (Henry County) Commission”. Her directive is something we cannot comply with in good consciences.
    To date, the museum, in its seven years of operation, has seen visitors from all 50 states and 15 foreign countries. Heritage tourism dollars have added money to the tax base in Henry and Clayton Counties, helping to fund many projects, including roads and schools. Prior to the recession, it was not uncommon to see over 2,000 students in a year; however, the yearly school day now has just shy of 500 students who visit not only the museum, but many different hands on stations to help to engage every student. Never have we had a teacher or student complain about the variety of flags or uniforms being presented in these educational settings. In fact, most teachers applaud our efforts to help them in the classroom.
    The Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. has not only been active on an educational aspect, but has helped Henry County in many ways to manage this beautiful battlefield. We have worked with the Boy Scouts, Eagles Scouts, the Audubon Society, Master Gardeners, Civil War Trust, and other community groups. Our volunteers have put up split rail fencing, painted, cleared barbed wire, mowed, graded roads, picked up debris, fixed many “broken” things around the property, and so much more. Our mission was to assist Henry County, not only with the historical aspect of the property, but to make this a property the entire community could be proud of. To be honest, majority of the people in District 2 are proud of Nash Farm Battlefield.
    There will be many who will think the Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. should have stood up to this censorship. Currently, the museum operates out of the old Nash farmhouse, which is owned by Henry County, and all utilities are paid by the county. The relics that were displayed, with the exception of a small amount that Henry County owns, were on loan to our group. When our key volunteer and donor made the decision to pull his relics, the Board had no other decision than to close the museum. We could have kept the doors open sporadically and showed beautiful display cases that were empty. When you engage in a conflict, your goal is to gain ground. The Board felt the only decision we had was to close the museum. This has not been an easy decision as many of our volunteers have donated much time, money, sweat, and tears to this property. The Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield was created after the Steering Committee was dissolved by the Henry County Board of Commissioners over 10 years ago. That is over a decade of work that some of our volunteers have contributed to this property.
    As a Board, we ask that you contact not only Commissioner Clemmons, but also all the other Henry County Board of Commissioners, to let them know how you feel about the current political climate that affected the closing of Nash Farm Battlefield Museum. It is important that you voice your opinion to these politicians so they know there is public support for the historical aspect of this property.
    Thank you to all the groups and individuals who have supported Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc. over the years. Our volunteers have been honored to work to preserve history and work diligently to improve the community. We can only hope that this property and its history will be sustained for future generations.
    Respectfully Submitted by the Board of Friends of Nash Farm Battlefield, Inc.
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    Guess that kinda speaks to the 'let's just put all the statues in museums' theory.:sarcastic
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      Well said John.
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        Originally posted by john duffer View Post
        Guess that kinda speaks to the 'let's just put all the statues in museums' theory.:sarcastic
        It was never about putting anything in a museum, much like the flag issue in Columbia, SC in 2015 was never about putting away a flag. It is about erasing history. Give an inch and totalitarians will take a mile or more. We have seen this precedent in history before.

        There are over 10k intelligent and history-savvy people on this forum that, I bet, would be willing to lend their voices to supporting history. Question is, how best to mobilize?
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          Originally posted by Johnny Lloyd View Post
          It was never about putting anything in a museum, much like the flag issue in Columbia, SC in 2015 was never about putting away a flag. It is about erasing history. Give an inch and totalitarians will take a mile or more. We have seen this precedent in history before.

          There are over 10k intelligent and history-savvy people on this forum that, I bet, would be willing to lend their voices to supporting history. Question is, how best to mobilize?
          I've refrained from commenting on the issue so far partially because there's little need - nobody's mind is likely to change - and partially because it's hard to make a reasonable statement without being labeled racist and pro-slavery. As time goes by History gets more warped and increasingly there's the perception that the Confederate government was like the Nazis and invented slavery when they came to power. It's Christmas day 1859, a sixty year old slave has who to blame for his or her 60 years of bondage? Can't be the Confederacy, it doesn't exist. Yet white power groups want to say the South had it right, white apologists want to say don't look at me it was those Confederates, blacks generally agree with the white apologists. If the war hadn't happened there's a very real chance that slavery would have lasted 10, 20 or more years, there's no evidence that the South prolonged it 4 years past an immediate end. You can't judge people 150 years ago by what we know today. Racism was based on ignorance rather than hatred. I'm a licensed surveyor in Tennessee and once worked a boundary dispute case that I had to take back to 1832. I came across a number of warranty deeds that were slave transactions, some including houses and cattle, these people considered their slaves as livestock or property. It seems unimaginable to us nowadays but it was the norm at the time and completely legal. So I think any statue to any white person for any deed they accomplished prior to 1860 should come down at once. Sadly to some of those posting here it's too late to try R. E. Lee for treason but maybe they could dig up his bones and scatter them as punishment. Shockingly I'm old enough to have seen white and colored water fountains and restrooms. I was a little kid and wasn't shocked or appalled, I saw it like a speed limit or keep off the grass sign because I didn't know any better. Should I be punished now 60 years later? f
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            Duffer,

            Hadn't quite seen the argument put that way before. Makes perfect sense to me. Since I'm agreeing with you, it means you're doomed.
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              The biggest historiological mistake we make is looking at history through the eyes of today rather than the eyes of the past.
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                Originally posted by Johnny Lloyd View Post
                The biggest historiological mistake we make is looking at history through the eyes of today rather than the eyes of the past.
                True, but on the other hand, the history and the ramifications and the symbols of the Civil War go beyond 1865. Although I do not agree with the request of the commissioner, I can understand why an African-American person would make such a request. The politicians between 1870 and 1970 symbolically wet the bed, and the people of the present have to try to dry the mattress and hopefully salvage it.

                EDIT:

                I do not want to appear to be a snob, but from a museology standpoint, the museum photographs did not really appear impressive. The photographs did not depict any particular narrative to the exhibit, just antique store cases crammed full of artifacts with minimal explanation. The land itself is county property, and perhaps the county can find the funds to reestablish a museum staffed by county employees. Or request the state or the NPS to take it over.
                Last edited by NMVolunteer; 05-24-2017, 11:21 PM. Reason: added a paragraph
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                  It is rumored here the county will sell the land once it is reconverted. This is merely a ruse to do so. That would mean one of the last areas that preserves some action of the Battle of Atlanta would be apartment buildings or a Walmart.

                  Does that make a difference in your assessment?
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                    I am a municipal employee, so I know all about rumors. Only 5% of the rumors floating around my town had any basis in reality. With that said, I hope they do not sell it, as this is an opportunity to set up a modern museum. Unless they sell it to the state or the NPS, which would be fine.
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                      Would you be willing to wait and see if this rumor is among the 95% or would you take action now?
                      Recent trends tell me that it is not a rumor.
                      The writing is on the wall. The county does not have the continued operations of the park in mind. In interviews with commissioners the clearly stated that "We should not have to relive the war."
                      As far as I am.concerned anyone who would sit by at this point is part of the problem.
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                        Actually, I am wondering if someone can get ahold of their financial reports, since the group is a non-profit. Nobody just abruptly closes a museum over a request from one county commissioner. I wonder if the shutdown was planned for a while, and they decided to go out with a bang instead of admitting that they were unable to raise the funds necessary to stay in operation.
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                          The County gained the land by eminent domain a little over a decade ago, to my understanding, due to its historic value.

                          The vast majority of the collection in the museum belongs to an individual and is under a loan agreement. According to the Friends board member present, once the demand was made to remove all confederate flags from the museum, the owner of the loaned collection removed the full collection. They understood the commissioner to be speaking with full authority, just as she was when the flag was removed from the outside pole several months earlier.
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                            Here's another perspective from a local news outlet. I see Breitbart and the Washington Times have echoed the museum's FB post, but this seems like it might be a little more nuanced, and essentially elaborates on Terre's account:

                            HENRY COUNTY, GA (CBS46) -

                            The volunteers who run a Henry County Civil War museum said it will close for good on June 1.

                            The museum is usually only open to the public on Fridays and Saturdays but CBS46 was able to go inside Wednesday and found most of the artifacts have already been taken out.

                            Mostly empty rooms are all that's left of the Nash Farm Battlefield museum. The Board of the Friends of Nash Farm, volunteers who run the museum, said in a Facebook post that the abrupt closing is the county's fault. They claim Henry County Commissioner Dee Clemmons asked them to remove all confederate flags from inside. Instead they said the museum is packing up and closing.

                            "I feel very badly about it closing, said Chuck Johnson, a Civil War buff. "It's a battlefield here. We need to honor men on both sides, black and white, north and south."

                            Johnson heard about the closing at a Civil War reenactment over the weekend. But Henry County Commissioners Spokesperson Melissa Robinson said there's a lot of misinformation going around.

                            "The county has not asked them to take down anything or to leave the museum.," she explained. "That was something they did voluntarily."

                            The volunteers claim they had no choice but to leave and CBS46 has learned what started all of this. In March, Commissioner Clemmons asked that the second official confederate flag, flying high next to the current state of Georgia flag and the United States flag, be taken down. Commissioner Clemmons sent reporter Ashley Thompson the email with her request.

                            Dear Colleagues there has been an overwhelming request from my constituents to remove the Confederate Flag at the County owned Nash Farm Park. I was surprised that we have this flag in our county inventory flying high for Almost 8 years. When I investigated further with Tim Coley I was relieved that the flag did not belong to Henry County and that the owner would graciously place it in their personal dwelling. If any of you would like the flag placed back up speak now. If you get concerns from citizens refer them to me. After thorough research I can testify that this flag has no historical reason for being displayed on County property as it has no relevance to the undocumented battlefield. Secondly I would not want our County open to possible lawsuits for hate crimes or discrimination. Patrick advise if we need a vote since the owner has already removed their flag.

                            It's a move that sat well with some Henry County residents.

                            "I don't like it being on public properly," said Lisa Mclen. "We all know what it really stands for."

                            Then, Friends of Nash Farm say that less than two weeks ago, Clemmons supposedly asked for the removal of confederate flags from inside the museum. They said that was the final straw. A donor, frustrated, pulled out all of his artifacts, which were on loan to the museum, forcing them to close. Some don't get what the big deal is.

                            "It's a heritage thin, I understand that," said Henry County resident Victor Wilson. "It has its place and that's one of the places they decided for it to be."

                            CBS46 has a number of calls and e-mails into Commissioner Clemmons to get her side of the story. Besides forwarding us the email from March, she hasn't responded. Though she did respond on Facebook, saying in part "I will not apologize for asking that the Confederate Flag be removed from a county owned park."

                            We continue ask whether Clemmons did indeed ask for the removal of flags from inside of the museum as well. A county spokesperson, Robinson, had no knowledge of that.

                            Read more: http://www.cbs46.com/story/35510779/...#ixzz4iDn6nsR6

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                              Originally posted by Spinster View Post
                              The County gained the land by eminent domain a little over a decade ago, to my understanding, due to its historic value.

                              The vast majority of the collection in the museum belongs to an individual and is under a loan agreement. According to the Friends board member present, once the demand was made to remove all confederate flags from the museum, the owner of the loaned collection removed the full collection. They understood the commissioner to be speaking with full authority, just as she was when the flag was removed from the outside pole several months earlier.
                              Then they should check the commission minutes to verify. I have experienced city councillors trying to use their name and title to influence things, but a quick call to City Hall will reveal whether they speak with authorization, or if they are speaking as private citizens. And there is a large difference between the two.
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