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  • Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

    Zoning plan upsets owners

    By MEG BERNHARDT

    Hanover Evening Sun [Hanover, Penn.]
    April 14, 2007

    A Gettysburg motel owner is threatening a lawsuit if the borough rezones part of a busy tourist street to residential use.

    The borough's planning commission plans to recommend the change on Steinwehr Avenue south of Culp Street, said planning consultant Tom Comitta, owner of West Chester-based Tom Comitta Associates, Inc.

    That section of Steinwehr includes America's Best Value Inn, the American Civil War Museum, Friendly's, McDonalds, May Flowers Asian Buffet and Restaurant, KFC, and General Pickett's Buffet. It is currently zoned tourist-commercial.

    The planning commission is expected to make its recommendation to the Borough Council in May, and then the council will decide whether to proceed with the proposed zoning ordinance. If it proceeds, a public hearing will be scheduled. But the council could ask the planning commission to strike the change before going ahead with the ordinance.

    If it is passed, Paul Witt, the owner of America's Best Value Inn, will sue the borough, he said.

    "I think it's a horrible idea," Witt said. "I can't understand why they want to do this. This is a commercial street. It's been this way for 75 years. It was partially residential 30 years ago, but now it's commercial."

    The recommendation was made largely because the current visitor center near Steinwehr will be demolished when a new one opens near Baltimore Pike. The Gettysburg Foundation is currently in the process of building the new $125-million visitor center and plans to open it in 2008. Business owners along Steinwehr have complained the move away will damage business.

    "We thought that would be a good change because the borough has heard repeatedly from people such as Eric Uberman of the American Civil War museum that once the visitor center leaves its current location – along with the Cyclorama Center and the Electronic Map – that business will die on Steinwehr Avenue," said borough planning commission member Walton Davis. "If that's the case and they are going to die, then what we don't want to see is other types of businesses that have less a chance of success going back in. É We'd rather see it go back to being residential."

    He pointed out during the 1863 battle, the area was residential farm houses.

    If the businesses survive the move of the Visitors Center, they can remain as pre-existing legal non-conforming uses, Davis said.

    But the business owners have concerns that new zoning will tie their hands if they attempt to improve their structures or adapt to the changing business climate, they said.

    And Uberman said he was surprised the planning commission members mentioned him because he has not discussed the change with them.

    "This is the first I've heard about it," said Uberman, a longtime critic of the new visitors center plans. "Nobody has spoken to me either as a property owner or as a business owner."

    And he said he never said all businesses will die.

    "There are a number of businesses along Steinwehr Avenue that if they lose 10 percent of their gross is enough for them not to continue in business," Uberman said.

    But he said he has a built-in clientele and believes his business will remain intact.

    He worries restrictive zoning will damage the existing businesses further, but said he isn't sure because he hasn't been given any information about the change.

    "To devaluate people's property based on the fact the Park Service is moving, is unreal," Uberman said.

    Who made the planning commission "God of Gettysburg?" asked McDonalds franchise owner Emmett Patterson.

    "I hope the common sense of the Borough Council overrides the good intentions of the planning commission that aren't very well thought through," Patterson said. "They have to be operating in a vacuum to even consider this."

    He said the borough should be working with businesses to help them thrive and build the tax base. He said the National Park Service had not done this when making the decision about the visitors center.

    By changing the zoning, business owners said, the borough will be reducing the assessed property value and hurting their tax base.

    And Patterson pointed out the businesses will need to be flexible in order to adapt and survive, which more restrictive zoning could inhibit.

    "Business people don't just roll over and die," Patterson said. "You've got to adjust to the changing times."

    Davis acknowledged the zoning change might not be popular, but said it is the best move. He said the commission envisions more commercial activity in the downtown and around a planned redevelopment site near the newly renovated historic train station.

    "Our job as a planning commission is to plan and look to the future and do what we think is best for the borough," he said. "We might step on some political toes, but it's up to the Borough Council to make decisions (with that in mind)."




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    Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

    Originally posted by Dignann View Post
    Zoning plan upsets owners


    That section of Steinwehr includes America's Best Value Inn, the American Civil War Museum, Friendly's, McDonalds, May Flowers Asian Buffet and Restaurant, KFC, and General Pickett's Buffet. It is currently zoned tourist-commercial.
    This is certainly tragic for those folks in the Remembrance Day parade - those are all the food stops at the end...

    Seriously, this simply continues the cleaning up of that portion of the park that is most effected by the sprawl - Steinwehr below Cemetery Hill. It began with removing the "8th Ohio Motel." Moving the Visitor Center will indeed shift the traffic over to Baltimore Pike and if I were those owners, I would start shopping for a new location for that reason alone. I remember being amazed that the Hardee's there went under, so the other businesses can't be doing a great business, and this will make things much tougher.

    The owner of the motel says the "it was partially residential 30 years ago" - and that is about how long it took to convert it into the blight you see now. Time to go back. It they don't do this (Planning Commission) then goodness knows what kind of business would take over once the restaurants fail, and we could get into a continual cycle of foreclosure.

    You have to do feel bad for the business owners though.

    If we (and the business owners) were lucky, CWPT, etc. could organize buying the land from those owners before each business fails and then returning it to the NPS, so that someday the National Cemetery could again look out over the battlefield unfettered, at least in that direction.
    Last edited by dusty27; 04-15-2007, 10:04 AM.
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      Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

      I really don't see the point of restoring it to residential, unless you set clauses like they have in Colonial Williamsburg, VA (period structures, maintenance, limited traffic, etc...). To me modern structures are modern structures...be it Gen. Picket's Buffet, McDonald's or someone's newly constructed house (not even conforming estheticly to period style).

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        Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

        I wonder if there are enough history enthusiasts in this country to make an "historically aesthetic" neighborhood development feasible, if the now-commercial land could be purchased, razed, and reclaimed.
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          Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

          My dream retirement home would be to reproduce whatever was on that property during the war and sit on my porch all day looking up the hill where heroes lay and walking all around where heroes fell. Ideally it would become park property...but an historic residential area with period homes would be a good compromise. If handled properly, and homes are kept to a minimum on large lots, I bet there is enough interest.
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            Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

            Steinwehr zoning explained

            By MATT CASEY

            Hanover Evening Sun [Hanover, Penn.]
            May 15, 2007

            Gettysburg merchants got a look at a controversial proposal to rezone the south end of Steinwehr Avenue on Monday, and while one said his fears have been reduced, another said he still doesn't want to see the tourist area rezoned residential.

            The borough's planning commission intends to recommend the rezoning of Steinwehr south of Culp Street from its current tourist-commercial designation. Borough planning commission member Walton Davis has said the change is intended to prepare for changes to the area because of the visitor center's move away from Steinwehr, and reduce tension between the neighboring residential district and the commercial facilities.

            The section of Steinwehr currently includes America's Best Value Inn, the American Civil War Museum, Friendly's, McDonalds, May Flowers Asian Buffet and Restaurant, KFC, and General Pickett's Buffet.

            Matt Callery, owner of Gettysbike Tours and Rentals – one of about 20 members of the Steinwehr Avenue Association, newly formed to support keeping Steinwehr Avenue a commercial tourist destination – said he is "not as worried" as he was.

            He and about five other association members attended Monday's Borough Council meeting to hear planning commission consultant Tom Comitta explain his recommendations. Comitta is owner of West Chester-based Tom Comitta Associates, Inc.

            Overall, Comitta said, the plan's purpose was to "help the borough over the next 50 years stay more like it is."

            Comitta said that commercial properties rezoned as residential would be able to continue operating as a non-conforming use, but businessman Dave Sites, said a condition like that "does give you one handcuff on both hands," because it can complicate efforts to expand in the future.

            While some fear the move of the visitors center to a location off the Baltimore Pike will hurt Steinwehr businesses, association leader Tom Crist said the increased tourism the new center will bring to town could actually help the tourist strip.

            In response to a question from Councilman William Monahan, Comitta said residential properties couldn't be allowed under the current zoning. But as an alternative, he said, the borough could add residential to the accepted uses in the area and retain commercial zoning.

            Monahan said those changes would allow market forces to determine the future of the Steinwehr strip.

            Callery said the presentation made him feel better, but he remains skeptical.

            "This could all be a show put on for us by the council," Callery said. "I'll believe it when I see it."

            After the council is satisfied with the proposed ordinance, it will schedule a public hearing to receive comment.




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              Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

              Steinwehr zoning to have little change

              By MATT CASEY

              Hanover Evening Sun [Hanover, Penn.]
              June 19, 2007

              The Gettysburg Planning Commission on Monday decided to present a proposed zoning map to the Gettysburg Borough Council that will not appreciably change zoning on Steinwehr Avenue after businesses and council members objected to an earlier plan to zone most of the street residential.

              The four commission members who attended the late-afternoon workshop, and the commission's consultant, Tom Comitta, agreed to support a map that would change the zoning of most of Johns Avenue just west of Steinwehr from tourist commercial to low-density residential, but would leave the zoning of Steinwehr Avenue itself as tourist commercial.

              The commission's other choice would have zoned Steinwehr Avenue south of Culp Street as low-density residential.

              That section of Steinwehr includes America's Best Value Inn, the American Civil War Museum, Friendly's, McDonalds, May Flowers Asian Buffet and Restaurant, Kentucky Fried Chicken and General Pickett's Buffet.

              Commission member Walton Davis was not present at Monday's workshop.

              Steinwehr Avenue business owners said the zoning change could lower property values and complicate their efforts to adapt to a changing business environment.

              The previous plan spurred Steinwehr Avenue business owners to form the Steinwehr Avenue Association, hold monthly meetings and show up en-masse to meetings pertaining to the potential zoning change.

              Tom Crist, association president and owner of Flex and Flannigan's at 240 Steinwehr Ave. said he was happy to hear about the commission's decision.

              "The group will be very pleased to hear that. It will make everybody feel a lot better," Crist said.

              Davis has said the change was intended to prepare for a decline in tourism to Steinwehr Avenue because of the Gettysburg National Military Park's visitor center's move away from Steinwehr in 2008, and reduce tension between the neighboring residential district and the commercial facilities.

              But Crist said the increased tourism from the new visitor center could bolster visitation on the tourist strip even though the visitor center will be farther away.

              The new visitor center is being constructed on Hunt Avenue off Baltimore Pike, about 1.5 miles from its existing location adjacent to Steinwehr Avenue.

              The map also comes with Comitta's recommendation that the borough also allow Steinwehr Avenue property owners to build residential structures on their land.

              Comitta first suggested the compromise to allow commercial and residential structures on Steinwehr at the Borough Council meeting in May, and business owners and several council members approved of the idea.

              Councilman Bill Monahan said it would allow businesses to continue functioning, and allow property owners to build residential structures if the market favored it.

              Crist said Tuesday that if a property owner wanted to build a residential structure on Steinwehr Avenue, they should be able to do that, though he didn't know why they would.

              The planning commission has committed itself to present the map and changes to the zoning ordinance to the Borough Council before the end of the year, when the council could either approve or deny it.

              Three members of the borough council are not running for re-election, and commission member Rad Schultz said a 2008 vote would mean the planning commission would have to brief the board's new faces.




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                Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

                Hallo!

                I have been to Gettysburg nearly 50 times, and have never approached that southern end of Steinwehr from the SOUTH (always through town from the north.)

                On the one hand I do not see the commercial problem. On the other hand I was surprised when the Elby's/Shoney's/Manner's/Elias Brothers restaurant closed- and when the Hardee's closed to be reborn as "Chinese."

                I am all for "restoring" south Steinwehr to the 1863 Emmitsburg Road, but not to see expensive condo's and resisdences take over from the commercial businesses (assuming/presuming that is a possibilty).

                I was there in May, and was REALLY impressed with the Devil's Den/Slaughter Pen/Big Round Top deforestation effort. (though it made it harder to find Fountain Rock now that it is out in the open...)

                Now, if they would get rid of the road following Plum Run in the "Valley." ;-) :-)

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                  Curt, I would agree with you on the tree removal effort .. I too was there in May and seeing the devils den area with the 1863 forest line is very exciting indeed.. Now if they could just get rid of that trolley line..
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                  • #10
                    Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

                    I would love to see the area on Steinwehr Ave. reclaimed. It would hopefully start to give Cemetery Hill back its look and maybe help people understand it's importance. All those buisnesses especially that eye sore, Holiday Inn have destroyed the once mighty Cemetery Hill.

                    The deforestation was equally impressive up on Culp's Hill. Pardee Field once again exists as it once had.
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                      Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

                      That section of Steinwehr includes America's Best Value Inn, the American Civil War Museum, Friendly's, McDonalds, May Flowers Asian Buffet and Restaurant, Kentucky Fried Chicken and General Pickett's Buffet.

                      I would not look for any changes here - I imagine several of those businesses were anti-casino, as they stood to lose big time if folks were going to eat and sleep up at the Casino area on Route 30.

                      Besides, if they got rid of the KFC and Chinese restaurant, nobody would know where to stop the Remembrance Day parade...;)
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                      • #12
                        Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

                        Hallo!

                        Thanks Herr Matt!
                        I had forgotten to mention the Culp's Hill work!
                        (My fault, I have a 2nd and 3rd Day fixation... sometimes. ;) :) )

                        Curt
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                          Re: Gettysburg - Rezoning Steinwehr Avenue?

                          Originally posted by DougCooper View Post
                          I would not look for any changes here...
                          Right you are, Doug. The Gettysburg Times reported, within the last couple days, that the effort to rezone that portion of Steinwehr had been defeated.

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