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    The Battle of Camp Jackson, known to some (especially to secesh) as the Camp Jackson Massacre, took place on May 10, 1861, in a western suburb of St. Louis then known as Lindell's Grove. Here's a decent summary on the event:



    As some of you Westerners may know, today the site of the encampment is owned by Saint Louis University. At the moment it's a beautiful undeveloped green space in the middle of an urban college campus. The University is now collecting public opinion on the development of the site. This is inevitable; it's prime real estate in downtown St. Louis, and in fact that space had already been developed in the past, complete with fast-food restaurants, copy shops and the like. Those eyesores were removed when SLU bought the land, and the site has remained an open grassy space since then. But now the University is going ahead.

    While there's nothing that can be done about the plans to build on the site, it may be possible to influence at least the design of the architecture. Last September a group of us managed to persuade SLU to allow us to stage an authentic encampment on the site to highlight the historic nature of the space. The event received a little bit of media coverage and was well-received in the community, so I'm hoping that there's already some good will toward the notion of at least preserving the historic look and feel of the area.

    I'd like to encourage all of you to consider going to this link:


    and answering the questions. Most of the responses aren't relevant to the idea of preservation, but there's space to add your own ideas towrd the end of the questionnaire. It would probably be most helpful to stress the historic nature of the site, the fact that St. Louisans have been made more aware of the site's importance because of SLU's generosity in funding the encampment last fall, and the opportunity to reach out to the wider community.

    Thanks for taking the time to do this.

    Regards,
    [FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Silvana R. Siddali[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [URL="http://starofthewestsociety.googlepages.com/home"][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Star of the West Society[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][B]
    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Cherry Bounce G'hal[/B][/COLOR]:wink_smil

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    Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

    Done and done. Here is a copy of my comments. Even if you're not a Missourian, we need your help in this. The last day for comments is tomorrow so please respond. It may not do much good but at least an effort will have been made.

    The area in question is the last vestige of Camp Jackson, where a very important aspect of Missouri Civil War history occurred. I was part of a living history there last August and many members of the public came and learned something.

    Our historic places are being destroyed constantly and it is important that they be saved for our posterity.

    If you develop this small vestige of what is left of Camp Jackson, there will no longer be anything available to inform and educate St. Louisans and others about the turmoil and tragedy connected with that place.

    What happened there is what made Missouri so divided during the war. If Camp Jackson had not occurred perhaps Missourians would not have killed Missourians at such places like Vicksburg.

    I would hope that the desire for money would not drown the desire to preserve heritage although I fear it will. Please reconsider the development of this small remnant of a place so important in the history of Missouri.

    Sincererly,
    Michael Comer
    Michael Comer
    one of the moderator guys

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    • #3
      Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

      Just finished. Any place where General Lyon was at I am interested in saving.

      Holler
      Nathan Hellwig
      AKA Harrison "Holler" Holloway
      "It was the Union armies west of the Appalachians that struck the death knell of the Confederacy." Leslie Anders ,Preface, The Twenty-First Missouri

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      • #4
        Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

        Comments sent.

        Please note that they're requesting all respondents complete the survey by tomorrow, July 15th.
        Marc A. Hermann
        Liberty Rifles.
        MOLLUS, New York Commandery.
        Oliver Tilden Camp No 26, SUVCW.


        In honor of Sgt. William H. Forrest, Co. K, 114th PA Vol. Infantry. Pvt. Emanuel Hermann, 45th PA Militia. Lt. George W. Hopkins & Capt. William K. Hopkins, Co. E, 7th PA Reserves. Pvt. Joseph A. Weckerly, 72nd PA Vol. Infantry (WIA June 29, 1862, d. March 23, 1866.) Pvt. Thomas Will, 21st PA Vol. Cavalry (WIA June 18, 1864, d. July 31, 1864.)

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        • #5
          Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

          Hey all
          I got mine in too. We may have no luck at all stopping the development. Fr. Biondi is pretty headstrong about development of the area. When I attended college there it was a parking garage. Just last year didn't SLU have the distincition of leading the nation in violent crimes on campus? I guess the Jesuits' plan for turning it around is by buying up all the property and developing it.
          As Silvana said development of the site is inevitable. Perhaps they will agree to a more visible commoration/interpretive signage to inform all about what happened there.
          If we can just get them to move the dern sign to a more visible area our battle is won. A patch of permanent green space would be nice looks like it will be by the "fluzy in the jaccuzzi."
          Frank Aufmuth
          Frank Aufmuth
          When you hear my whistle, Hell will be upon you.

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            Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

            Okay, I got my comments in, too. That was really fun the last time we had an event there. Hope we get to do it again.
            [FONT="Book Antiqua"]Carl Anderton[/FONT]

            [FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][SIZE="2"]"A very good idea of the old style of playing may be formed by referring to the [I]Briggs Banjo Instructor."[/I][/SIZE][/FONT]
            [FONT="Palatino Linotype"][B]Albert Baur, Sgt., Co. A, 102nd Regiment, NY Volunteer Infantry.[/B][/FONT]

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            • #7
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              Comments left...I am sad this place is to be developed yet again. Perhaps in another few years the structure paced here will be torn down again and we may see the green that blood was spilled upon so many years ago. The boys of the St Louis Grey's are turning yet again in their graves.
              Mitchell L Critel
              Wide Awake Groupie
              Texas Ground Hornets

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              • #8
                Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

                I doubt my two cents mean anything, but I threw them in anyhow...
                Warren Hook
                First Sibley Mess
                New Madrid Guards
                WIG



                "...And to Missouri we
                Extend both heart and hand
                And welcome her a sister
                Of our Confederate band
                Tho surrounded by oppression
                No one dare deter
                Her adding to our Bonnie Blue Flag
                Her bright and twelfth star! "

                Lyrics, Bonnie Blue Flag, by Harry McCarthy, 1861.

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                • #9
                  Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

                  I added my two cents worth to the SLU poll. If my memory serves me correctly my ancestor William Ruyle joined the 5th Mo. (CS) because of the "affair" at Camp Jackson.

                  Tim Ruyle
                  "There's hot......and then there's Vicksburg hot."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Camp Jackson about to be developed

                    The final date for survey replies has been moved back to July 27, so if you haven't sent in your comments, you have a few more days to do so. Thanks to all for your help. Here's the link again:

                    [FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Silvana R. Siddali[/SIZE][/FONT]
                    [URL="http://starofthewestsociety.googlepages.com/home"][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"]Star of the West Society[/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][B]
                    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Cherry Bounce G'hal[/B][/COLOR]:wink_smil

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