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    Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad
    BY PATRICK KANE
    STAFF WRITER
    03/28/2008


    PETERSBURG — After the death of a Civil War expert who was defusing a mortar shell, the National Park Service isn’t taking any chances with explosives. So when employees of Petersburg National Battlefield uncovered a 44-pound, 8-inch diameter mortar shell Thursday morning, they immediately called the Virginia State Police bomb squad.


    The shell was discovered as workers and volunteers swept the future path of the park road for artifacts and explosives. The new road will go around the Taylor House.

    “We’ve been out there looking for live artillery rounds so it won’t get hit by a bulldozer,” explained Jimmy Blankenship, historian-curator for the battlefield. Metal detectors were used, and they found many musket balls and shell fragments before today.

    Julie Steele, cultural resource manager and archaeologist, said that 95 percent of the road is over old roads, but they knew it would cross the old Union line near Fort Morton, “an area of a lot of activity.”


    “We found lots of fragments of shells but this the first whole shell,” said Steele.

    After it was located, the area was marked, blocked off and the bomb squad was contacted. They came within the hour, said Bob Kirby, park superintendent.

    The shell was taken by a bomb disposal vehicle to the Petersburg city landfill, where it was detonated with external explosives. Blankenship said. The hollow iron shell did have live gunpowder. It was destroyed around 1:30 p.m.

    The only casualties of this shell were a few scared birds, thanks to a policy still in draft form at the battlefield. The rule change came after relic hunter Samuel H. White of Chester was killed while defusing a similar shell, Blankenship said. White ran an online business, Sam White Relics, from his home at Granite Pointe Court in Chester. He claimed to have diffused more than 500 similar weapons. White was killed in his garage in mid-February, and the shell damaged another home about a quarter-mile away.

    “They were meant to kill people,” Blankenship said of the antique weapons. The new battlefield policy is to call the Virginia State Police bomb squad or Fort Belvoir’s explosive ordnance team if they can’t be reached.

    Blankenship said it was an anti-personnel weapon fired by the Confederates at Union troops.

    “The idea was to have this come down behind the trenches where the men were located. It would explode at tree-top level and sprinkle shrapnel down on the troops,” striking as far as 600 yards away.

    “It’s a powerful shell,” he said.

    Steele said that finding the shell would help them pinpoint where that Union line existed during the Petersburg battles.

    “Now we know a little more,” she said.

    • Patrick Kane may be reached at 722-5155 or pkane@progress-index.com.

    ©The Progress-Index 2008

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    Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

    That's too bad, but the old days of the state or military bomb squads disarming Civil War shells are pretty much over. These are, first and foremost, explosives, and artifacts or museum objects second. Safety will always be paramount when dealing with live shells. It should be noted, however, that this is not a service-wide policy, but is merely Petersburg's.

    Eric
    Last edited by Dignann; 03-28-2008, 07:31 AM.
    Eric J. Mink
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    • #3
      Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

      A friend told me that the woods across the river from West Point once caught fire, the area once used as a target range of sorts, and that the local fire department could not get in to extinguish the fire due to exploding shells.

      My uncle used to de-fuse these things. I won't touch em.

      Joe Mode
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      • #4
        Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

        ...sprinkle...
        B. G. Beall (Long Gone)

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        • #5
          Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

          Sprinkle is a politically correct way of saying bursting jagged pieces of burning metal slamming into your opponents flesh.
          Respectfully,
          Mark Bond
          [email]profbond@cox.net[/email]
          Federal Artillery

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          • #6
            Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

            This type ball probably had a wood fuse adapter which is usually rotted away and replaced by dirt. It would have been a simple matter to put it in a tub full of water and it would have filled up as soon as the dirt in the hole became wet mud. No drilling required. All you would have to do is empty out the dirty water. When I-95 was built through that area I have been told the EOD people made a trip most every day to collect unearthed shells and dispose of them.
            Jim Mayo
            Portsmouth Rifles, Company G, 9th Va. Inf.

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            • #7
              Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

              Mr. Mayo,

              I agree with you completely. Overkill and grandstanding.

              I'm glad it is only 'this' particular park's stance. I am currently working on some shells for a couple museums for their displays which including disarming and preservation.

              John Walsh
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              • #8
                Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                Glad somebody else caught the "sprinke" comment.
                I endured a number of these events and stll carrying a few significant bits of same, 40 years hence.
                Mike Parks

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                • #9
                  Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                  Gents,

                  I once worked for a few months at the US Army Ordnance Museum in Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. We had the same discussion. If someone calls up with found and possible unexploded ordnance (Civil War, WWI, WWII), then what should be protocol... Send in the local state/federal bomb squad and treat it as you would a bomb that might be found in an airport (explode in-place or elsewhere by bomb squad with no historical questions or considerations asked), or treat it as a historical relic with the preservation of the piece in mind after it has been disarmed.

                  While I understand safety should be first and foremost when it comes to dealing with unexploded ordnance, I prefer the latter idea of making an all-effort attempt to save the piece from total destruction outright. I feel historical ordnance is like any piece of history; It is a valuable clue, and should be preserved, if possible. After all- it might be dangerous, but not a terrorist's bomb and should deserve our consideration before it is destroyed.

                  Of course, some would argue the frequency of certain items negates this a bit. (Example: "We already have a ton of those kinds of shells, so who cares?") However, I feel with the destruction of ANY Civil War history, our understanding on the era narrows even just a bit. One never knows what new historical significance/clues they might find when they closely examine unexploded ordnance and other items proven to be from the era.

                  By the way, from what I have seen in Iraq, when mass casualties are taken from a bomb, "sprinkle" is putting it VERY lightly.

                  Thanks- Johnny Lloyd
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                  • #10
                    Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                    Johnny,

                    I concur. Not only is the park grandstanding, but this adds more "ammunition" to the EOD fellows' and their quest to show relevenace for their jobs. I am certain that many ATF types are just salivating to get in on the action.

                    Regarding "sprinkle", what do you call it when it also includes pieces of aluminum, insulation, wiring, and other bits of aircraft.. besides a bad day?
                    Tim Kindred
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                    • #11
                      Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                      I agree with historical preservation but not at the cost of a life. Would you be willing to risk your child’s life if they were on the bomb squad having them defuse a 145 year old piece of ordnance that could be unstable?

                      Everyone’s an expert until the ordnance goes, Boom!
                      Respectfully,
                      Mark Bond
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                      Federal Artillery

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                      • #12
                        Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                        Originally posted by Mbond057 View Post
                        I agree with historical preservation but not at the cost of a life. Would you be willing to risk your child’s life if they were on the bomb squad having them defuse a 145 year old piece of ordnance that could be unstable?

                        Everyone’s an expert until the ordnance goes, Boom!
                        Yeah, no kidding. Then explain how they disarmed other ordnance before when they found it. Cause in the past couple years I havn't heard of any one being blown up. ;) We know more now than then right?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mbond057 View Post
                          I agree with historical preservation but not at the cost of a life. Would you be willing to risk your child’s life if they were on the bomb squad having them defuse a 145 year old piece of ordnance that could be unstable?

                          Everyone’s an expert until the ordnance goes, Boom!

                          Understood, but there needs to be some sort of historical consideration for the age of the object/its historical significance by bomb squad authorities. Of course, I agree that there should be no compromising safety... that is without question. There are plenty of ways of properly rendering explosives harmless. Doing that would preserve the shell for museum preservation.

                          Thanks- Johnny Lloyd
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                          • #14
                            Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                            Evan are you kidding or unable to view the entire thread?

                            Just to recap the Park service made this ruling after the February 2008 death of relic hunter Samuel H. White of Chester who was killed while defusing a similar shell.

                            Not sure how you keep time but I would say that is recent.

                            As much as I love history and would hate to see anything that can tells us more about our past destroyed, I value life as more important. Trying to render a 140 year old piece of ordnance that has been exposed to corrosion safe is dangerous for even the most experienced EOD person.

                            The graveyards are full of a whole lot of people who thought they knew what they were doing. :wink_smil
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                            Mark Bond
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                            • #15
                              Re: Park’s new policy on Civil War artillery: Call the bomb squad

                              I wonder how many of the posters in this thread have any first hand experience in handling or disarming CW ordinance? Consider all the CW ordinance that has been rendered safe over the years resulting in only 2 deaths and one serious injury. The numbers of dug shells which have been disarmed in the last 25 or 30 years probably number in the thousands. Compare this to the risk associated with other hobbies and I think you would find disarming CW shells is safer than some of the other activities people perform like driving to work.
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