Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

[JimKindred]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

As I see it, this is a forum by and for re-enactors.

That was the way it was when the cover photos started unfortunately too many egos got involved and the program when down the tube rapidly. For the moderators the cover photos have become nothing more than a huge headache.

[gilham]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

Original only.
It gives people a chance to see previously unplubslihed images.
To me research is more important than seenig what kewl new jacket or coat joe hardcore got for christmas.
Also I dont think the original should be limited to martial type images. Photos of civilians are just as important. Just as long as you are sure they are from the time period.

[MO-Pard]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

Thank you, Jim. We need to be supportive, not divisive. It takes a bigger person to reach across or heal a divide, then to pull someone into it.

Again, whatever is decided on the question will not keep me up at night... I, for one though, don't have or want a Facebook account. I wouldn't want to mix my real life with my living history life if I did. But there I digress. I am part of this community to interact and interrelate with it's many people and personalities as it relates to the genre. This site is here to help folks progress, share information and to form/improve relationsips. I will not disparage you if you are fat, or hate you if you are skinny. Although, I have seen some poor images over the years, at least they are trying and it is up to us to guide them or show them the error of their ways. I have also seen some very good ones.

If folks get a mass email saying to "vote for this one," and it isn't the best image, then stand up in that audience and tell them why it isn't the best.

Personally, the way I have the site bookmarked, I don't even see the cover, but do enjoy once a month perusing the 10 submitted. I appreciate those folks for trying and sharing........

....regardless if I agree with 'the winner."

Best Regards from today's peacekeeper-


Best Regards

[JimKindred]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

As has been seen in the past there have been many instances of guys going on unit forums and mass emails telling people to go vote on the Images this month just because it is theirs or a pards. The worse thing I have seen is where people have done the same thing but telling their friends to vote against an image because they don’t like a particular group/person.

The above is just another reason to do away with this "contest" altogether, it was never meant to be a competition.

Should these mass emails and such happen again in the future please pass the information on to the moderators.

[joey12thga]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

The above is just another reason to do away with this "contest" altogether, it was never meant to be a competition.

Should these mass emails and such happen again in the future please pass the information on to the moderators.

Okey dokey, will do.

[Possum Stew]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

What Jay said.

[KeithRK]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

It has gone down hill. To the point where someone actually left a post complaining that they didn't win. Even though they worked oh so hard recreating to the tiniest detail an original photo.

Well, I would have rather seen the original photo.

[flattop32355]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

Just another case of a nice idea going bad because some folks abuse the original intent.
So much for the idea that everyone on this end of the hobby is Sweetness and Light. ;)

BTW, what was the original intent?
To see if one could "reproduce" an original photo? I don't think so.
To Show off? Nope.
To win a popularity contest? Hell, no!
To show that at least some of us could gain the look of a period participant? Yup, at least somewhat.
To encourage others to strive for as-close-to-period-as-they-can-get? Definitely.

In a way, it's an extention of the EBUFU concept: Photos by us and for us to demonstrate what is possible to us within the hobby, at least in a materials sense. That won't come from limiting it to original photos.

[FedInf82]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

I agree with Mr. Biederman. As one who is fairly new to the hobby and has a serious interest in creating an increasingly authentic impression, seeing reproduction photos is an encouragement. Of course, they will never compare to originals as research tools. However, seeing reproductions and being able to compare them to orginals is, in my opinion, highly valuable. It gives us an opportunity to view ourselves and the soldiers we portray through (forgive the pun) the same lens. They are also a tremendous motivation, especially to new folks like myself, who are able to see, as Mr. Biederman said, what is possible within the hobby.

[Spinster]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

Just another case of a nice idea going bad because some folks abuse the original intent.

To show that at least some of us could gain the look of a period participant? Yup, at least somewhat.
To encourage others to strive for as-close-to-period-as-they-can-get? Definitely.

In a way, it's an extention of the EBUFU concept: Photos by us and for us to demonstrate what is possible to us within the hobby, at least in a materials sense. That won't come from limiting it to original photos.

Yep, What Doc B said.

I grew tired a long time ago of popularity contests. And it really drove home to me a couple of years ago when a young man reported back from an event he'd been to saying " I thought we'd drill and stuff, and I'd learn something, but the officers spent most of the morning changing clothes and sitting for pictures"

Still, there is great merit in the process of studying and attempts to replicate. We've had some fabulous images. And there are fabulous orginals out there to be highlighted and featured--even more than the individual postings and discussions of such.

Which is why I voted for the 'combination' option. Something to learn from, and something to show what we have learned.

Every once in awhile, if we work very hard, it might be difficult to tell the difference.

[Trish Hasenmueller]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

What Mrs. Lawson said.

Trish Hasenmueller

[Matthew.Rector]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

I believe a combination would be fair and interesting. However, I certainly hope that if original photographs are submitted that proper credit and/or citation is provided (required) with them. Its not too unusual to see original images posted on this website with no provenance or credit given.

[Kace]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

On occasion when someone has offered up a new photo that attempted to reproduce an original they also offered the original for comparison. I for one always went away with a greater appreciation for both images on those occasions.

Kace

[Rankin]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

When I voted on this I thought it was simple, Would you like to see original photos that are cool,or would you like modern reproduction period style photos that are cool? I voted for both.
End of subject. If you need a confirmation of your legitmacy in the hobby than talk amongst your pards about how authentic you are. They will back you up. Nothing more legit than a mess of well "researched" pards.
Jim Crawford
Hairy Nation Boys

[JimKindred]

Re: Cover Photos: Originals and Repros

Folks,

This thread has become a fine example of why the cover photo votes have been become the problem they are. We may just have to do away with allowing votes on the photos completely.