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  • #16
    Re: the reenactors age

    This is from Fox's Regimental Losses, Chapter VII, concerning the Union army:

    The muster-rolls are provided with a column in which is entered the age of each recruit. From the figures in this column it appears that the mean age of all the soldiers was 25 years. When classed by ages, the largest class is that of 18 years, from which the classes decrease regularly to that of 45 years, beyond which age no enlistment was received. Of 1,012,273 recorded ages taken from the rolls, there were 133,475 at 18 years; 90,215 at 19 years, and so on. The number at 25 years of age was 46,626; and, at 44 years, 16,070.
    Hank Trent
    hanktrent@voyager.net
    Hank Trent

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    • #17
      Re: the reenactors age

      From the very interesting information Linda posted, it looks like being a gentleman was the way to go if you wanted to live a relatively long life.

      I have a question about the female avocations - what was an operative? Is this someone who worked in a factory setting?
      Michael Comer
      one of the moderator guys

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      • #18
        Re: the reenactors age

        Actually, being a judge/justice was 67 years and gentlemen were 63. :-)
        Sincerely,
        Emmanuel Dabney
        Atlantic Guard Soldiers' Aid Society
        http://www.agsas.org

        "God hasten the day when war shall cease, when slavery shall be blotted from the face of the earth, and when, instead of destruction and desolation, peace, prosperity, liberty, and virtue shall rule the earth!"--John C. Brock, Commissary Sergeant, 43d United States Colored Troops

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        • #19
          Re: the reenactors age

          32. My first person impression is of an 18/19 year old. Despite my height and beard stubble, I've successfully passed as 18.
          R. Charles Cesca
          Co.B 155th PVI
          Great-great-grandson: Corp. Richard B Davis
          "Applejackin'. Fence flippin'. Hard chargin'."

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          • #20
            Re: Operative

            what was an operative? Is this someone who worked in a factory setting?
            From an 1853 Webster's Dictionary, "Operative, n. A laboring man; a laborer, artisan, or workman in manufactories." I'm not quite sure how this differs from laborer or machinists, but... I assume a mechanic is one who has his own shop, like a smith, etc.

            Linda Trent
            lindatrent@zoomnet.net
            Linda Trent
            [email]linda_trent@att.net[/email]

            “It ain’t what you know that gets you into trouble.
            It’s what you know that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain.

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            • #21
              Stats

              Linda,

              Interesting statistics. A clerk's life expectancy was 33 years, and a pauper's, 65. I wonder why the great difference.
              Dave Grieves

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              • #22
                Re: the reenactors age

                i think that to have a healthy mix of ages is appropriate. anyone who has been in the armed services in a combat role can tell you that a few years of line work will make you look ten years older. you can imagine then from the faces of some of those men we see in the pictures that they are very weathered from exposure. This tends to happen to people on the line. I myself have been asked if im in my thirties (which im sure some of you would take as a compliment...). Even the most baby faced, acne ridden teens would appear the veteran after a season of good campaigning.


                Chris "im getting too old for this army stuff" mattingly
                Chris Mattingly
                The Coffee Cooler Mess

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                • #23
                  Re: Stats

                  Originally posted by Dave Grieves
                  Linda, Interesting statistics. A clerk's life expectancy was 33 years, and a pauper's, 65. I wonder why the great difference.
                  Hi Dave,

                  Hank and I were wondering the same thing, and what we came up with a possibility which is that the statistics actually show what a man was doing when he died, not necessarily what he was doing all his life. An older man, for example, who didn't work, would be more capable of spending down to nothing, and passing away penniless. Thus a pauper died at such an old age.

                  Just a thought.

                  Linda Trent
                  Linda Trent
                  [email]linda_trent@att.net[/email]

                  “It ain’t what you know that gets you into trouble.
                  It’s what you know that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain.

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                  • #24
                    Re: the reenactors age

                    Originally posted by Emmanuel Dabney
                    Actually, being a judge/justice was 67 years and gentlemen were 63. :-)
                    Yes, I noticed that, but there were only 7 of them compared to 263 gentlemen which would produce a more accurate representative number I thought.
                    Michael Comer
                    one of the moderator guys

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                    • #25
                      Re: the reenactors age

                      So which category do you pick it your on one edge or the other - 35 to 40 or 40 to 45??
                      [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]David Chinnis[/FONT]
                      Palmetto Living History Association
                      [url]www.morrisisland.org[/url]

                      [i]"We have captured one fort--Gregg--and one charnel house--Wagner--and we have built one cemetery, Morris Island. The thousand little sand-hills that in the pale moonlight are a thousand headstones, and the restless ocean waves that roll and break on the whitened beach sing an eternal requiem to the toll-worn gallant dead who sleep beside."

                      Clara Barton
                      October 11, 1863[/i]

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                      • #26
                        Re: the reenactors age

                        Hallo KAmerad!

                        Just a quick note...

                        You may be more interested in the "mean age" rather than the "average age?"

                        Meaning,(no pun intended) with an "average;" if we have a unit of 30, with 20 50 year olds and 10 of their 15 year old sons- the picture gets skewed....with the average being 38 years old. ;-)

                        Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
                        Curt Schmidt
                        In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                        -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                        -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                        -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                        -Vastly Ignorant
                        -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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                        • #27
                          Re: the reenactors age

                          I am 52 years old, but look like my mid 30's. i have been doing HARDCORE living history for 32 years and have no plans to stop. I started with the 15th Illinois which later turned into a base unit for The Mudsills (5th Kentucky Vol's) in 1974, and finnally now with the 33d Wisconsin and Hardhead Mess

                          Age is a thing of mind. you are ONLY as old as you want yourself to believe!

                          John M. Wedeward
                          33d Wisconsin Vol Infantry

                          ps. we arestarting to get the "Reseach Articles" "BACK" on or web site (33d Wisconsin)

                          When I have time, I scan them and our web master who posts them.



                          "Weed"
                          John M. Wedeward

                          Member
                          33d Wisconsin Volunteers
                          The Hard Head Mess
                          The Old Northwest Volunteers
                          5th Kentucky Vol's (Thomas' Mudsills)

                          Member
                          Company of Military Historians
                          Civil War Battlefield Preservation
                          Sons of American Revolution
                          Sons of Union Veterans

                          http://www.cwuniforms.net

                          Ancestors:

                          Pvt. John Wedeward, Co. A, 42 Illinois Vol. Infantry
                          Cpl. Arnold Rader, Co. C, 46th Illinois Vol. Infantry
                          Brigadier Gen. John Fellows, 21st Continental Regiment

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                          • #28
                            Re: the reenactors age

                            "Age is a thing of mind. you are ONLY as old as you want yourself to believe!"

                            Well, then, I'm 15.
                            My body, however, is 54. And my knees are apparently, respectively, 74 and 64. :-)

                            I can, with General Beauregard's solution, blend into the crowd quite nicely. But I'm finding it takes longer to recover physically from the more strenuous weekends, and longer to tune up ahead of them. Due to an extensive aerobic conditioning career earlier in life (muskrat trapping in January, February and March in New Jersey salt marshes for a dozen years. Almost as good as running marathons :-) ) I've got a core infrastructure of muscle and lungs that don't let me down during the weekend itself -- but I pay afterwards.

                            When I can't keep up or when it's clear I can't reasonably blend into the correct age bracket, I'll stop going to events where that matters, at least as a participant. But really, it seems most guys are out of shape even when they are the right weight, that is, the number of guys who can do 10 miles on a preservation march and end up ready to play baseball before dinner is pretty darn small.
                            Bill Watson
                            Stroudsburg

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                            • #29
                              Re: the reenactors age

                              Originally posted by billwatson
                              "Age is a thing of mind. you are ONLY as old as you want yourself to believe!"

                              Well said Bill! Let me in on some of that action, as long as this is turning into a "I'm really this age, but I LOOK this age" kind of thread. (Sounds like a dishwashing liquid commercial from the 60's....). OK then-- as for me, I'm 44 but I look 7!

                              Maybe we can take a poll on reenactor's WEIGHT next?

                              Rich Croxton
                              Rich Croxton

                              "I had fun. How about you?" -- In memory of Charles Heath, 1960-2009

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                              • #30
                                Re: the reenactors age

                                Hallo Kameraden!

                                Just to be crabby, what does this have to do with much of anything? ;-)

                                I am 3,984, but listed as 37-38, well-muscled.
                                (5' 10", 168 pounds, black is my favorite color, and my sign is Sagitarius. Last movie seen "The Terminal." Last book read: Too many too remember. Favorite food: pizza. Turn-offs: flame baiters and trolls. Turn-on's: Private.)
                                :-)

                                Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
                                Hyper Sapien Mess
                                Curt Schmidt
                                In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                                -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                                -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                                -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                                -Vastly Ignorant
                                -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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