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    Which do you prefer and why. German made caps seem to jam up my gun more. I tried and got nothing.
    150
    German made
    65.33%
    98
    Navy Arms
    31.33%
    47
    other
    3.33%
    5
    [B]Bob Spellman
    104 PVI company C[/B]

  • #2
    Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

    typo: "I tried the search and got nothing."
    [B]Bob Spellman
    104 PVI company C[/B]

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    • #3
      Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

      I've always used the German ones and have fared very well. Are the navy arms caps the infamous 6 wing caps that are always referred to as not acceptable on some event guidlines?
      Pierre King
      27th Conn.
      1st Minnesota

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      • #4
        Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

        The caps that are banned are the CCI caps, they are six wing, meant for a recessed nipple whereas the navy and German are meant for what we are using.

        Andrew Jarvi
        Capt. 5th USCT
        Respectfully yours,
        Andrew Jarvi
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        • #5
          Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

          I voted, then decided to look at my cap pouch to see. I have about three different makers. I usually use which ever I can get my hands on. If I buy them at an event if someone as them they are navy arms. Local store CCI or German. I have heard the CCI sin winged caps were breaking off and causing injury. I would say that the majority of the caps I have used were the CCI and never had any trohble at all. Of course were not talking about the authenticity either of the caps, just makers.
          Thanks
          Daniel MacInnis
          Adair Guards
          Commonwealth Grays
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          • #6
            Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

            Hallo Kameraden!

            Man und boy, I have been using exclusively "German" caps since Day One, for "reenacting" and "live fire," in a total of over two dozen original, Italian repro, and custom built revolvers, carbines, rifles, and rifle-muskets over the years.
            And use nothing else.

            Do I like them?
            Nein. I would prefer a period copper cap. ;-) (And use left-over from the Centennial copper caps for talks and presentations.)

            Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
            Not Fond of .50-70 CF Spencer brass or .45 LC Henry brass, or .45-70, or .44-40 WCF brass, or .38 Colt brass Either Mess
            Curt Schmidt
            In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

            -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
            -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
            -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
            -Vastly Ignorant
            -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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            • #7
              Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

              I have never had a problem with the German-made caps since I started reenacting four years ago. Plus, I like the German cap cans better than the Navy Arms cans because they are much easier to open (admittidly, I am a wuss :tounge_sm ). One interesting rumor I heard lately around the campfire was that Navy Arms was soon going to halt production on their percussion caps. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?

              Sincerely,
              Matthew Cassady
              104th Illinois Vol. Inf.
              [B][COLOR=#0000CD]Matthew P. Cassady
              [/COLOR][/B]

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              • #8
                Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                I use the German caps and have not had a problem. I have heard that the Navy Arms caps work just as well. From what I've seen, the only clear advantage the Navy Arms caps has is that they don't come in a modern plastic container. To combat this, I just put the German ones into period pill tins made by Village Tinsmith, which is similar to the tin that the Navy Arms caps come in. They hold about 75 caps each, which for me is more than enough for one weekend.


                Rob Weber
                3d Ala Inf
                Rob Weber
                3d Alabama

                When the blast of war blows in your ears, then shall ye good men imitate the actions of the tiger!!! Stiffen thy sinews, summon up thy blood, disguise thy fair nature with hard favored RAGE!!! -- William Shakespeare, Henry V, Act 3, sc. 1

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                • #9
                  Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                  I have alwaysed used german caps, never had much of a problem with them. I have used Navy arms and i have nothing agaisnt them i just like my german caps better
                  John Beaver
                  Georgia State line

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                  • #10
                    Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                    German all the way, simply becasue 1) easier to open... :wink_smil and 2) I've never had a German cap shatter on impact.
                    Dan Foster

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                    • #11
                      Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                      I go through several thousand caps per season and am sometimes tempted by the lowest price! With the German caps being less than $25.oo per 1,000 lately I have been using them. However, I prefer the CCI caps as they seem to be hotter, which gives me a more cosistant ignition in my original Maynard (consistant ignition equals higher scores). Also, they fit better into the cone area on my 1855 series arms (where the Maynard system makes finger room a little tight.) Of course my reference is primarily for live firing, but I have not experienced any more dangerous effects with the CCIs (in terms of wings being cut off and spraying etc) as with any of the others, and I have used all three of the major (current) producers.
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                      • #12
                        Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                        I've heard that Navy Arms rumor also, but as they are readily available and there aren't hordes of reenactors stockpiling Navy Arms caps. I think this rumor is 6 feet in the grave.

                        For LH, I use available old copper ones. However, for the most part, I don't shoot unless it's a tactical, and if it isn't- it's naptime about 5 mins. in.
                        Last edited by MarkTK36thIL; 08-25-2004, 04:49 PM.
                        Mark Krausz
                        William L. Campbell
                        Prodigal Sons Mess of Co. B 36th IL Inf.
                        Old Northwest Volunteers
                        Agents Campbell and Pelican's Military Goods

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                        • #13
                          Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                          I only use CCIs on pistols..no wings no worrys! :D
                          Gary Mitchell
                          2nd Va. Cavalry Co. C
                          Stuart's horse artillery

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                          • #14
                            Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                            Is there any way to check all three????

                            I'v used German,Navy arms, CCI and what not and all seem to be fine to me froma working standpoint not a historical one.

                            I currently have a tin of Germans.


                            Jordan Davis

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                            • #15
                              Re: German Made Vrs Navy Arms

                              Originally posted by capt5thusct
                              The caps that are banned are the CCI caps, they are six wing, meant for a recessed nipple whereas the navy and German are meant for what we are using.

                              Andrew Jarvi
                              Capt. 5th USCT

                              I use the German caps, even though they are not hot enough to fire my Richmond Springfield every time under damp conditions. (I have to work the cone with a pick, and prime it from time to time using a touch of powder).

                              I got hit square in the back of the head at Averasboro when one of those CCI caps blew apart. (That's what I get for portraying a "bummer.")
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                              [B][FONT=Book Antiqua]David Lanier[/FONT][/B]
                              3rd Sgt., Co. I, 6th NCST/69th NYV
                              Chaplain, Camp #171, SCV, CWPT, MOS&B

                              "The past is not really dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

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