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Remember too that age in a male naturally puts more weight in the shoulder area - esp if you work out and keep it off your gut. I was congratulating myself on my broad shoulders and nearly static waistline over the last few years when a doc told me - "sorry, that is just what happens in your 40's." :(
I think what you might find is that those of us who are in their late teens and 20's and maintain a healthy lifestyle are closer to their historical counterparts than we might think...because those of us who are more mature have skewed the numbers.
We also have wheaties and HGH, which our ancestors lacked :D
Soli Deo Gloria
Doug Cooper
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Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich SchmidtView Post
Was it you that posted, a while ago before the last or second-last AC Crash, a Civil War era (I believe it was New York Life Insurance Company) demographic list?
Linda has a life insurance table on life expectancy, no sizes. There's a table in the 1880s Hill's Manual showing average heights and weights by age group and sex, which is still on the site in the second thread linked below.
Seems like there was just a thread on here where reenactors were asked to list height and weight. Yep. "What Size Are You?" in the sinks.
For period heights and weights, there are these threads:
Thanks Herr Hank! I may have been melding and merging different posts from the past in my recollections.
"Remember too that age in a male naturally puts more weight in the shoulder area - esp if you work out and keep it off your gut. I was congratulating myself on my broad shoulders and nearly static waistline over the last few years when a doc told me - "sorry, that is just what happens in your 40's"
Herr Doug... I would disagree. ;) Age and lifestyle puts more weight in the gut area... ;) :)
At age 18, as an athlete, I had a 42 inch chest, and weighed 185 pounds.
"Many years" later, I have a 42 1/2 chest and weigh 175 pounds.
(Although my last physical said "well muscled," I would not want to compare that to me at age 18.)
Seriously, a read two studies a while ago that proposed that modern males lose 3% of their muscle mass for each year over the age of 30. And gain 3 pounds.
Unless they "do" something about it.
And, of course, individual genetics, environment, and lifestyles can make many exceptions...
;) :)
Curt
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Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich SchmidtView Post
Hallo!
Thanks Herr Hank! I may have been melding and merging different posts from the past in my recollections.
"Remember too that age in a male naturally puts more weight in the shoulder area - esp if you work out and keep it off your gut. I was congratulating myself on my broad shoulders and nearly static waistline over the last few years when a doc told me - "sorry, that is just what happens in your 40's"
Herr Doug... I would disagree. ;) Age and lifestyle puts more weight in the gut area... ;) :)
At age 18, as an athlete, I had a 42 inch chest, and weighed 185 pounds.
"Many years" later, I have a 42 1/2 chest and weigh 175 pounds.
(Although my last physical said "well muscled," I would not want to compare that to me at age 18.)
Seriously, a read two studies a while ago that proposed that modern males lose 3% of their muscle mass for each year over the age of 30. And gain 3 pounds.
Unless they "do" something about it.
And, of course, individual genetics, environment, and lifestyles can make many exceptions...
;) :)
Curt
Curt you are my hero! I will now fire the doctor :D
Soli Deo Gloria
Doug Cooper
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There was a post similar to this awhile back by me so if you need more info search for it. I found that I am almost the same size as a jacket in EOG. The Tait jacket with the sizing label. I know we are bigger than back then, how many sunken faces you see? I got to lose a few at 5' 10" about 170 something. I want my 160 back. And I am 37.:angry_smi
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I’m doing a research project on the size of Civil War soldiers compared to people, mainly re-enactors of today.
Perhaps you are skewing your numbers by using AC as the sampling ?
What I mean is that for the most part the AC represents the pinnacle of the hobby. As such, its ranks are filled with members more inclined to accurate body representations as part of their top tier impressions....the elite.
To me.... sampling the mainstream masses would bring about a more accurate representation of, to use your term "mainly re-enactors of today".
I am a 38 trouser / 44 jacket on a 5'7" frame...I look nothing like my CS soldier ancestors.
I'm a trouser 36X32 length... baggy for comfort. 43-inch chest... age 32 next month
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