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  • #61
    Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

    Too good not to BUMP!
    John Turvey
    69th NYSV CO. A
    Irish Brigade

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    • #62
      Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

      Folks,

      With this year and next containing the early war "150's" and thus showcasing the civilian soldier and civilian impression, I think this thread needs to be bumped up for consideration by us all. This is a veritable "clinic" on the subject of Cravats and when, how and who wore them. This is a neglected detail that was so very prevalent in the 19th century and as such this thread bears repeating.

      Thanks to Ian and the others who created it.........................enjoy!

      Mark
      J. Mark Choate
      7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

      "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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      • #63
        Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

        i just wondered where the four handed knot features in this debate?
        Martyn Goddard
        American Eagle Society
        Mess #4

        http://www.aesoc.org/

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        • #64
          Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

          Originally posted by Ian McWherter View Post

          Now iron the edges of the part of the cravat to be tied towards each other. This will make the ends easier to tie and form a neat knot. The part of the cravat that will go around your neck will remain 3" or however tall you decide to make it:



          Now you're ready to tie your cravat, have fun.:)
          Thanks for posting. I usually press mine about 3" across and wear it that way, but I like what you have done here. May I ask, after you make the above noted pressing, do you then sew it up to make the folds permanent?
          Thanks again.
          Den
          Den Bolda
          5th Minnesota Inf. Co D

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          • #65
            Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

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            Here is a pic from my collection of Joshua W. Whaley, Co. G, 34th Alabama Infantry sporting his plaid cravat...
            Tom "Mingo" Machingo
            Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess

            Vixi Et Didici

            "I think and highly hope that this war will end this year, and Oh then what a happy time we will have. No need of writing then but we can talk and talk again, and my boy can talk to me and I will never tire of listening to him and he will want to go with me everywhere I go, and I will be certain to let him go if there is any possible chance."
            Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
            Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
            KIA Petersburg, Virginia

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            • #66
              Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

              Tom,
              Thanks for posting your photo. Awesome!
              Tristan Galloway

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              • #67
                Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                Here's another. Some kind of tradesman, note the apron/coveralls and overshirt worn underneath the coat----also wearing a cravat.

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                Jim Page

                "Boys, Follow Me!"--Colonel William Bowen Campbell
                1st Regiment of Tennesse Volunteers (1846-1847)

                "Weeping in solitude for the fallen brave is better than the presence of men too timid to strike for their country"--Motto embroidered on the flag of the 1st Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers and presented by the Nashville Female Academy (June, 1846).

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                • #68
                  Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                  Here is a image of workmen rebuilding crystal palace 1852-54 in Great Britain , notice one has a cravat,

                  Some more same site and date
                  Martyn Goddard
                  American Eagle Society
                  Mess #4

                  http://www.aesoc.org/

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                  • #69
                    Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                    Actually, more than one have cravats... and a coupla neckerchiefs are depicted too.
                    -Elaine "Ivy Wolf" Kessinger

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                    • #70
                      Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                      They are both amazing images of working class men,
                      Martyn Goddard
                      American Eagle Society
                      Mess #4

                      http://www.aesoc.org/

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                      • #71
                        Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                        I have two ideas. Either the men in the period photographs, dressed nice with top hats and cravats for the camera, or they had different standards for dress back then. Even the homeless had their standards. A lot of the paintings and photos of the lower class have the bums and "trash" wearing top hats and coats. Granted, they where probably found in the trash, but they still tried to dress nice.

                        Caleb Courtney
                        Caleb Courtney
                        30th Indiana Co. F
                        "judge not by what people say, but how they say it, and what they mean by what it."

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                        • #72
                          Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

                          This is a very informative (and short) video on tying a cravat.
                          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
                          Your Humble Servant,
                          Sean R. Otis
                          124th NYSV Co. A "Orange Blossoms"
                          MIDDLESEX LODGE F. & A.M.

                          In Memorium: Harvey Otis, Jr. — 156th NYSV Co. A .
                          Killed in action, September 19, 1864,
                          at Winchester, VA. Aged 26 years.

                          Member of the "Hard Sauce" Mess

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                          • #73
                            Re: Cravats Worn by the Working Class.

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