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  • #16
    Re: the ever elusive house

    I'll ask this. If this "House" is not an acceptable substitue to the tent then is the tent is an exceptible temporary home? I think I would rather see an assembly of little sheds than a sea of canvas where civilians are involved.
    I worked with a fellow who restored old homes in the 1980's in south Eastern PA. As we tore down lathe and plaster walls we found many with small 10' X 10' to 20' X20' log structures about 8' feet High without lofts. In many of these the flooring was set in later to the walls not part of the original structure.
    Some had basements dug after the house was constructed. Some of these dated to around 1680- 1730. Most were raised by German or Swiss immigrants. they usually were in the center of the new home or became the kitchen because of the fire place/hearth. One place had become a 12 room hotel on a wagon road in the 1840's. Its log cabin was a store room for the Inn.

    Originally Posted by AZReenactor
    One thing I think is important here is to make a conscious effort to avoid letting this drift too far into the realm of modern anachronisms and concentrate on authenticity related facts rather than acceptable farbisms.


    Now I agree that more research on this is paramount. Authenticity must be preserved at all cost. So then all of our "Approved Vendors" who use latex paint on cavas items should be removed from this forum. We allowed this because of alleged safety concearns. "Bull" its cheaper comes ready made so it involves less work. Yet this is acceptible?
    I feel if some guys want to build portable winter huts for a winter living history than so what. Were tents set up and used all the time? No.
    I mean have you ever been to White Oak in Stafford VA? The owner of that museum Mr. D.P. Newton has some in the back and some dug ones on display on the inside.
    Sorry for Ranting we just need to set the bar and leave it. 100% authenticity or not at all. This is a dead horse no matter how many times you pick it up or prop it up.
    Last edited by Marylander in Grey; 04-05-2009, 04:50 PM.
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    • #17
      Re: the ever elusive house

      AZReenactor, And all who read this,
      I do appologize for the Rant. I will be researching " Dutch " homes made in the Antebellum period prior to the final desicion on the construstion of our own. I will post all research for review.
      Thanks for your contributions.
      Chris Fisher
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      • #18
        Re: the ever elusive house

        Here some quick research based on the home stead act of 1862. This was produced by PBS there is a lot of interesting things.

        Look at the bibliography lots of resourses.

        Heres some more:



        My point is the debate now turns to actual construction. I do realize the dates on most of this are some 20 years later than the ACW so I will keep looking.
        Thanks,
        Last edited by Marylander in Grey; 04-05-2009, 06:17 PM.
        Chris Fisher
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        • #19
          Re: the ever elusive house

          I'll just keep it short and stay in the "sweet" realm as well.

          Mr. Smotherman: I knew exactly what you were getting at from the get-go as I've been curious about the structures as well after seeing the Crabb's little abode. Not that I have the space or money right now to even think of building one. Notes for the future.

          Mr. Trent: Well put.

          All frequenting this section of the AC Board, come to discuss what we can do to make the every aspect of our civilian impressions as authentic as they can be. The clothing turns out to be the easy part when housing comes into the picture. The ever (always?) present "Canvas cities" aka the "civilian camp" at many more mainstreamer events is a blemish that won't be soon eliminated, just fact. They're a product of the fact that Civil War events were and are formed around what else, the military, not civilian life. Just give us a break while trying to do our best to compensate for lack of perfectly authentic 19th century houses at every event.

          For me, military reenacting was easier then when I delved into civilian for a change. I had my clothing and persona figured out but was truly worried about what to do for some sort of shelter. I didn't want to embarrass myself with some far flung rig, nor did I want to contribute to tent city, on top of that I didn't have the cash to go buy or build anything crazy. It's a tough tough subject, again, just let us exchange ideas and try without reprimand for not being authentic (read Mr. Trent's post again).

          Best regards,
          [SIZE="3"][FONT="Century Gothic"]Matt Mickletz[/FONT][/SIZE]

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          • #20
            Re: the ever elusive house

            Well, this is the AUTHENTIC-CAMPAIGNER and while citizens were not on campaigns, we still subscribe to the rules of AUTHENTICITY.

            The intent here has been denoted and as the historical record does not seem to be the most important thing the moderating staff believes this thread is now deceased.
            Sincerely,
            Emmanuel Dabney
            Atlantic Guard Soldiers' Aid Society
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            "God hasten the day when war shall cease, when slavery shall be blotted from the face of the earth, and when, instead of destruction and desolation, peace, prosperity, liberty, and virtue shall rule the earth!"--John C. Brock, Commissary Sergeant, 43d United States Colored Troops

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