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    I recently acquired these UHLT's (Unidentifiable Hoop-Like Things)... and I have no idea what they are. The two were originally identical, but time has aged them differently. The wire is very much like the wire of Civil War era hoops – watch spring; it responds to movement and returns to its previous shape. The wire is covered in some sort of material, very similar to that of Civil War era hoops. The cloth straps are very sturdy and have a slight sheen. The weave is not very tight, but something about this fabric keeps it very strong. There are five hoops strung along the cloth and fastened with a unique closure (the picture isn’t too great). At what I assume to be the top, the cloth is looped around and fastened back at the last hoop. I think this might have been where some sort of belt was threaded through.

    When thinking about how these might have been worn… I am really coming up with nothing that makes sense. I doubt these are Civil War Era, but I know the knowledge on this forum will lead me down the right path. To me, they wouldn’t give the shape that one would want from a bustle, and the two are identical. My grandmother (she gave them to me) said that they were worn on the hips. If that is the case, just how old are these? Historically, the family these came from was semi wealthy in central New York.

    These photos aren't loading properly, so please visit my webshots page that contains several different shots of these items. View Here.
    Traci Manning

    Curator of Education
    Mahoning Valley Historical Society

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    Re: What are these?

    The Metropolitan Museum had an exhibit a few years ago called "Extreme Beauty: The Body Transformed" that had several samples of cage-like sleeve supports from various eras which looked like these. The exhibit book is available, though I don't own it, but would recommend it based on the exhibit itself: http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Beauty.../dp/0300091176
    Marc A. Hermann
    Liberty Rifles.
    MOLLUS, New York Commandery.
    Oliver Tilden Camp No 26, SUVCW.


    In honor of Sgt. William H. Forrest, Co. K, 114th PA Vol. Infantry. Pvt. Emanuel Hermann, 45th PA Militia. Lt. George W. Hopkins & Capt. William K. Hopkins, Co. E, 7th PA Reserves. Pvt. Joseph A. Weckerly, 72nd PA Vol. Infantry (WIA June 29, 1862, d. March 23, 1866.) Pvt. Thomas Will, 21st PA Vol. Cavalry (WIA June 18, 1864, d. July 31, 1864.)

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      Re: What are these?

      Traci -

      Best guess without seeing them in person:

      I think they may sleeve crinolines - used to help support the large leg-of-mutton sleeves in the 1890s. The 1830s versions were pillows stuffed with down or horsehair. I'll look through some of my late-Victorian and Edwardian references and see what I can find.

      Interesting artifacts - I'd like to see them in person some time.
      Carolann Schmitt
      [email]cschmitt@genteelarts.com[/email]
      20th Annual Ladies & Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 6-9, 2014

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        Re: What are these?

        Wow, I was so very far off with my guesses...

        If these are from the 1890's, I have the bustle she wore with them... two actually. One still has the tag from the company that made it; both in great condition. If anyone wants pictures of those, just let me know. I swear my grandmother's attic should be a museum.

        Thanks, and Marc, I will look for that book - thanks for bringing it to my attention.

        Carolann - I will bring these back to school with me and we can get together.

        ~Traci
        Traci Manning

        Curator of Education
        Mahoning Valley Historical Society

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