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    I was asked this question and could not answer it.

    In the winter in the colder areas did the people have cold weather hats with earflaps or did they just use a scarf. I know the Elmer Fudd hunter hat is post war but did they have a mechanics hat or some other kind with ear covers?
    Thanks,

    Mark C. Foster
    Flint, Mi

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    Re: How to cover your ears?

    Mark,

    Try a Balaclava? I purchased one before Outpost and it really helped in keeping me warm, especially when trying to get some sleep! It is basically a "head sock " or period "ski mask", for lack of better decriptions. They are worth their weight in gold druning a cold night and will usually fit under a Hardee or forage cap for late night or early morning picket duty! Good luck;)
    Regards,
    Eliot Toscano
    Independent Brute
    Putting on no style...

    "Six children from the local village appeared wearing [U][B]fallacious accoutrements & reprehensible baggage [/B][/U]and thought they would put a sham battle on for our amusement. We laughed so hard at their imitation of soldiers that our sides were hurting for hours."
    A.R. Crawford in the 76th Illinois Infantry, Co D - April 1863 - The origin of FARB

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    • #3
      Re: How to cover your ears?

      Maybe a furry hat like the one worn in the below photograph! It looks like the sides fold down to cover the ears at least a little bit. I think there is some sort of clasp in the front that holds them up and out of the way when not in use.

      Taken from the LoC photo, "Washington, D.C. Workmen in front of the Trimming Shop. April 1865" LC-B817
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      • #4
        Re: How to cover your ears?

        That might be appropriate for a person sleeping in the cold outdoors but if you were a merchant or professional walking around town what would you use?
        Thanks,

        Mark C. Foster
        Flint, Mi

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        • #5
          Re: How to cover your ears?

          I have a hat like in the photograph except it's all fur, not just the flap part. The problem's the same as the guy in the picture. Look how far above the ears it is! When you fold the flap down, it just barely touches the tops of ears even after tugging the hat down. Is that just the way those hats are meant to be, or are they supposed to cover the whole ear?

          For the Elmer Fudd / Sherlock Holmes style hunting cap with the flip up ear flaps and visor and the little loops on top, see The Workwoman's Guide, London 1838, plate 19. Don't know how common it was in America in the period.

          Hank Trent
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          • #6
            Re: How to cover your ears?

            Hello-

            If your unit/mess/impression uniform regulations allow a "Forage Cap" (aka wheel hat) from the Mexican War era, some of those had ear flaps that could come-down over the ears.
            Of course, I have heard of discussions that MOST Mex War stuff (being 20 years old by the time of the Am Civ) wasn't issued to Civil War units and that this has been overrepresented in our hobby.
            This issue can be debated either way using the proper source materials. I'd suggest before you choose to go this route with your impression, check your research extra-hard since this is such an open-ended debate.

            Personally, I have an old wool scarf for my ears under my forage or slouch hat. ;)

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            • #7
              Re: How to cover your ears?

              In this picture below several of the guards (Invalid Corps or Veteran Reserve) at Camp Douglas, Chicago, IL who are wearing fur hats that look like a trappers hat or mountian man's hat. It is definetly not an issue hat. Seems appropriate for some civilian impressions.

              There is a High Def scan of this picture in either the LOC or Nat'l Archives. I can't find it right now. Maybe some help would be in order to find the HD scan.
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              [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE=3]Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
              Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"[/SIZE]
              [SIZE=2]Mustered in March 1862
              Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

              [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]"Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
              Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
              The execution part turned out to be false.[COLOR=DarkRed] [B]Dagg Nabbit![/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

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              • #8
                Re: How to cover your ears?

                The hat that I made for myself from looking at examples in the LOC collodian collection is constructed of a dark brown very fulled satinette with nutria lined 'ear flaps'. The 'flaps' were one continuous rectangle running from the fore of one ear around the back of the head to the fore of the opposite ear. They fold up exactly as the flap on the aforementioned m1839 forage cap and have a brown 1/4 inch tabby woven cotton tape that buckles at the middle front with a small two prong buckle that Joe Hoffmann used to sell on his site. The pattern is basically a circle or oval for the top of the cap, a large rectangle for the body, and a smaller rectangle for the flap. The visor I used was an enamelled leather visor such as used on other civilian wheel caps of the period. I lined the body of the cap with quilted polished cotton. If you need any dimensions for the rectangles, let me know and I will let you know some basic dimensions (probably next week as I am about to go out of town this weekend).


                Hope this helps,
                Cody Mobley

                Texas Ground Hornets
                Texas State Troops

                [HOUSTON] TRI-WEEKLY TELEGRAPH, October 28, 1863,

                Wanted.

                All ladies in Houston and surrounding counties who have cloth on hand, which they can spare, are requested to donate it to the ladies of Crockett for the purpose of making petticoats for the Minute Men of this county, who have "backed out" of the service. We think the petticoat more suitable for them in these times.

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                • #9
                  Re: How to cover your ears?

                  Hello All,

                  From a cdv backmarked Muscatine, Iowa, with tax stamp cancelled January 1865. Several varieties of fur hats here!

                  Kip
                  Last edited by MissouriStateGuard; 01-20-2008, 03:39 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: How to cover your ears?

                    I found the particular high def scan of the above mentioned photo at Camp Douglas. It wasn't in the N.N. or LOC. I found it here:

                    http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohisto...ges/10434.html

                    look in the fore ground of the guards. You will see the hats there.
                    [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE=3]Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
                    Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"[/SIZE]
                    [SIZE=2]Mustered in March 1862
                    Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

                    [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]"Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
                    Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
                    The execution part turned out to be false.[COLOR=DarkRed] [B]Dagg Nabbit![/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

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                    • #11
                      Re: How to cover your ears?

                      Thanks Michael

                      What a great link. It's amazing how much detail you can see when you zoom in! You can see shell jackets, frocks, sack coats, and count the buttons; make out different types of hats, and all that. Great stuff!
                      Regards,
                      Scott Dallimore
                      14th SCVI Co. I "McCalla's Rifles"
                      Reedy River Mess - 16th S.C. The Greenville Rg't
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                      • #12
                        Re: How to cover your ears?

                        My favorite part was being able to see so many of the faces. How some of them even while being imprisoned at such a horrible place still manage to put a smile on their face.
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                        • #13
                          Re: How to cover your ears?

                          Originally posted by PieBoy96 View Post
                          Maybe a furry hat like the one worn in the below photograph! It looks like the sides fold down to cover the ears at least a little bit. I think there is some sort of clasp in the front that holds them up and out of the way when not in use.

                          Taken from the LoC photo, "Washington, D.C. Workmen in front of the Trimming Shop. April 1865" LC-B817
                          Hats of that type were pretty common during the period. I just saw a photo somewhere, BookFace maybe; of one Cody Mobley made.
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                          • #14
                            Re: How to cover your ears?

                            Hallo!

                            A short answer is.. turn up the collar of one's greatcoat. :) :)

                            For fur hats, here is a sampling of closer detail from the Camp Douglas image:










                            If one did not have a civilian hat, but had a scarf, the old "tooth ache" type wrap around the head, over the ears, and tied under the chin works:


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                            • #15
                              Re: How to cover your ears?

                              Making a mountain out of a mole hill. KISS. Use a muffler

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