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    This is a bit late--I only got home Tuesday evening and this is my first chance to get on the forum since then--but Brian Luscombe and I had fun in the 89th Illinois Co. C as the brothers Levi and Enoch Coque, otherwise known as the "Fighting Coques". :)

    While I don't normally have much use for tacticals, we had fun at this one and the experience on Friday night/Saturday morning of the Federal battalion moving several times and having to sleep on its arms (in 40-degree air temperatures) was something I hadn't done before.

    My basic problem with tacticals was evident here, namely breaking up small battalions into company- and platoon-sized maneuver units, which was very rarely done in the Civil War. In several ways the battalions showed accurately being new (at least, the 89th Illinois was recently recruited for the time period portrayed). First-person, while far from being done as much as it was supposed to be per the pre-event general orders, was done to a greater extent than I've seen at many other "phsyical" or "campaign-style" events.

    Brian and I spent most of Saturday as guests of the Confederate provost guard. We were well-treated until the last twenty minutes of our captivity, but there's no need to go into that. The situation was reported at the end of the event and the CS command was sympathetic, so it's been addressed to my satisfaction.

    That I could tell, logistics appeared to be well taken care of. The issued Federal rations were very good--the cooked beef was excellent--but for some reason the apportionment wasn't done correctly. I overheard Companies A and B issuing two fist-sized chunks of beef per man and one fellow I met from Company A during our time as guests of the Rebels even had three chunks of beef, whereas everyone in Company C received only one. Our fellow prisoner comrade was nice enough to take one of his chunks and cut it in half, giving half each to Brian and me, so we probably had more beef than others in Company C.

    Company C was a great group of guys and it was a fun time all around.

    Oh, and the road trip was fun, plus we visited Stones River, the Carter House at Franklin, Lookout Mountain, Orchard Knob, Missionary Ridge, and Chickamauga. Dang, but KY, TN, and GA sure have a lot of Waffle Houses and Crack'r Barrel restaurants!
    Last edited by Kevin O'Beirne; 11-01-2007, 11:21 AM.

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      Originally posted by Mtn.Guerilla View Post
      Here are some of the pictures I promised. Thanks to all.

      Joel Phillips

      Hey Joel, good to see you again, hope your Florida pard made it home alright. You should send some of your photos over to Tripp, for the Armory Guards archives. I've seen several of our mugs in your pics, man I did look as rough as I felt.
      Good to see you as well. The Armory Guards are welcome to any and all of the pictures I posted on the AC. I took them for all of us to enjoy. Fact is, I stole one from Phil McBride (Alamo Rifles) for my website. Hope he does not mind. :)

      Joel Phillips
      The Flatlander's Mess
      Joel Phillips

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        Kevin,

        So that is the correct spelling of Los Bros Coque. Yeah you can't walk around the south east without tripping over a Wa-Ho or a Cracker Barrel.
        Herb Coats
        Armory Guards &
        WIG

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        • Re: Outpost III - AAR Thread

          Our fellow prisoner comrade was nice enough to take one of his chunks and cut it in half, giving half each to Brian and me, so we probably had more beef than others in Company C.
          Kevin,

          If you had one chunk of beef, you all had more beef than the entire Confederate force put together!


          This little piggy went to market mess
          Michael Comer
          one of the moderator guys

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          • Re: Outpost III - AAR Thread

            This post is a bit late as well....

            Thanks to the event organizers for allowing we small band of civs to attend OP3. To those who worked on the cabin, built an outhouse, and chicken coop, a gracious thank you. Most importantly, a special thsnk you to Anna, Silvana, Liz, Kim and Paul. Without you there would have been no family at the cabin. Same with the military. Until the men arrive on the site there are no armies. Thanks to those who traveled near and far to make OP3 a grand event.

            Memorable period moments:

            The constsant agrivation of men going into the cabin and stealing food.

            The constsant agrivation of having to navigate through groups of men.

            Trying to help a prisonor escape by desparately sawing through the rope which held him to a tree. As the rope gave the guard stepped from behind the outhouse.

            Watching a group of Confederate prisonors being brought near the cabin. They were relieved of their gear and told to sit. It broke my heart to see this. As I was preparing the noonday meal, peeling and discarding the outer leaves of a cabbage, one called out, " Mam' we'll eat what you through away." It was all I could do to keep from crying. To see our Southern men suffering in the hands of the enemy was hard to bear. I took a pot of chicken and one of cabbages and onions and sat them down in the middle of the prisonors. With hands on hips I looked at the guard who said nothing. He was a very smart Yankee.

            Comforting Liz as she recieved the news her husband had been killed in battle. His Masonic Brothers presented her with his personal items. The deep sorrow the men felt at the loss of a Brother, fellow Confederate, and friend deepend the dark shadow that haunted our sunny South.

            I was not angry when I was told a yankee had broken my pitcher but I was furious at the loss of milk inside it. No sweet milk corncakes for supper.

            Funny moments:

            The musical air produced by the Critters, both two and four-legged.

            Mr. Musgrove getting SO ANGRY when we did not quickly respond for demands for coffee.

            Catching Mr. Musgrove taking two eggs from a crock and telling him he needed to ask first. He held out the eggs and I closed his hand over the eggs and squeezed. CRACK!

            Watching Mr. Adair trying to catch a chicken.
            Carrie Craddock

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              Kevin,

              I had the privilege of standing with you fellows early on Saturday as Confederate guard. Regretfully; I was unable to tap your vast research knowledge of the conflict. It is not often that one has a truly captive audience these days. I feel the whole weekend was remarkable in regard to first person.
              I am glad to know that you and Brian were brothers. The whole manacle thing bothered me a bit initially.
              I have not had the honor of being a captive's guard before. It was an honor to have you there.


              YOS,
              Greg S Barnett
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              New Knoxville Mess
              ArmoryGuards/ WIG


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                "The constsant agrivation of having to navigate through groups of men."

                And horses. On the way to the privy.

                IN THE DARK.

                Good times.


                Kim Caudell

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                  I did not mind the horses themselves but their deposits were a different story.
                  Carrie Craddock

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                    Kevin,
                    here's the beef on the beef. As the rationing Sgt. for C co., when I was up with the ration detail receiving our rations, they were issuing 2 beeves per company, one onion per man, one potato per man and 5 hard crackers per man. While I was standing there, they remembered that they also had to ration for the cavalry. Long story short, we got screwed half our beef ration. I did, however go to one of the other companies and receive 1/4 of one of their beeves (after much hacking with a knife) and I used that to supplement some of the even smaller pieces from the original beef that we were issued. I hope that beef about the beef we had with the beef wasn't too hard to digest.... and my gum blanket still smells like the beef- and I have the stains to prove it!
                    Chris R. Henderson

                    Big'uns Mess/Black Hat Boys
                    WIG/GVB
                    In Memory of Wm. Davis Couch, Phillips Legion Cav. from Hall Co. GEORGIA

                    It's a trick, Gen. Sherman!...there's TWO of 'em! ~Lewis Grizzard

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                      I just remembered yesterday that I forgot to bring in my haversack from the trunk of the car - boy did I get an odiferous treat. Nothing like beef blood in a new haversack to break it in just right.
                      Ross L. Lamoreaux
                      rlamoreaux@tampabayhistorycenter.org


                      "...and if profanity was included in the course of study at West Point, I am sure that the Army of the Cumberland had their share of the prize scholars in this branch." - B.F. Scribner, 38th Indiana Vol Inf

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                        "...we got screwed...."
                        The unofficial motto of military forces since the dawn of time. It doesn't get more realistic than that.
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                          What the hell could one add thats not been said already. Had a swell time.
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                            Originally posted by gsbpvt View Post
                            Phil,
                            Looks like you have proof of me stealin that dried fruit. It was good!!!
                            It was a good weekend.

                            Cheers
                            You steal'n it? hell, you got what was left....that is after Co. B 89th IL passed through. :wink_smil loved them sausages and bacon too :tounge_sm
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                              Originally posted by huntdaw View Post
                              If you had one chunk of beef, you all had more beef than the entire Confederate force put together!
                              After talking with and trading with our guards during our time as guests of the Confederate provost guard detail, I'm convinced that the Rebel forces at Outpost 3 were not starving, even if "some little piggies didn't have roast beef". Some of the Rebel slab bacon I observed looked (and was) tasty.

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                                Originally posted by C.R. Henderson View Post
                                here's the beef on the beef. .... I hope that beef about the beef we had with the beef wasn't too hard to digest.... and my gum blanket still smells like the beef- and I have the stains to prove it!
                                Thanks for the background info on that. At least during the weekend I did not overhear anyone resorting to "Where's the beef?!", thank goodness for first-person. :)

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