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  • #2
    Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

    And the KA's would be the gentlemen who supposedly hold great reverence for their ancestral martial heritage, battleflags and Lee's visage on their "get drunk and fornicate party" t-shirts...one would hope the national organization drums them out with shame. (If one were any less cynical than I, that is.)

    Originally posted by KathyBradford
    Joe Long
    Curator of Education
    South Carolina Confederate Relic Room
    Columbia, South Carolina

    [I][COLOR=DarkRed]Blood is on my sabre yet, for I never thought to wipe it off. All this is horrid; but such are the horrors of war.[/COLOR][/I] Wade Hampton III, 2 January 1863

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    • #3
      Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

      Well, I never did anything THAT stupid, but I was nearly arrested for repeatedly discharging my musket at Old South back in 1989. ["Aww come awwwn, ossifer, they's only blanks."]

      Neal Sexton
      Beta Gamma Chapter
      [SIZE=1]Neal W. Sexton[/SIZE]

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      • #4
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        This is what college is all about these days. Dont go to school to learn....just party, get drunk, sleep around, and pull stupid pranks. Who cares? Its mom and dads money. Just as long as you get that diploma nothing else matters. Scary what our country has turned into. They have little or no respect for anything at all anymore. They ruin college for those who are there to really learn and have good clean fun.
        Gregory Randazzo

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        "The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states." Charles Dickens, 1862

        “These people delight to destroy the weak and those who can make no defense; it suits them.” R.E. Lee referring to the Federal Army.

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        • #5
          Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

          Originally posted by BishopLynch
          This is what college is all about these days. Dont go to school to learn....just party, get drunk, sleep around, and pull stupid pranks. Who cares? Its mom and dads money. Just as long as you get that diploma nothing else matters. Scary what our country has turned into. They have little or no respect for anything at all anymore. They ruin college for those who are there to really learn and have good clean fun.
          Well, some would say the above is a perfect justification for reimposition of the draft....

          Regards,

          Mark Jaeger
          Regards,

          Mark Jaeger

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          • #6
            Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

            Originally posted by BishopLynch
            This is what college is all about these days. Dont go to school to learn....just party, get drunk, sleep around, and pull stupid pranks. .

            Sounds like what college has always been like.
            Robert Johnson

            "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



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            • #7
              Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

              Sometimes I think higher education is more often than not wasted on the young. Gee, if I knew then what I know now....

              Vicki Betts
              Librarian--University of Texas at Tyler, currently in final exam week
              vbetts@gower.net

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              • #8
                Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                I realize this has nothing to do with the WBTS, but I just wanted to offer a perspective from one of the younger generation, that not all young people in college these days are just there to party. On Saturday, I graduate from Iowa State with a degree in Animal Science, and a minor in Agronomy. This has taken four years on the dot, I don't owe a penny (scholarships and working), and I run our family farm on the weekends, work at Central Stores during the week, and am getting married at the end of May. I may be the exception in some people's minds, but the younger generation is not all bad. On the same topic, I agree those guys were drunken idiots the like of the morons that rioted at VEISHA while I was home planting oats this spring, and should go out and get a job and quit wasting thiers and everyone else's time.

                Respectfully,
                Jeffrey E. Schmitz
                8th Texas

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                • #9
                  Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                  Their chapter should be revoked, no questions asked! That's just unacceptable, not just because we are all passionate about the Civil War and this case directly involves that. That puts a bad outlook on the whole fraternity existence. Frats are notorious for their classic pranks, but bounds are to be reagarded out of respect. I'm sure all of you fraternity members that post here would personally be ashamed of them. Aren't fraternities supposed to be elite, respectable, admirable organizations? Bad apples :angry_smi
                  Jim Conley

                  Member, Civil War Trust

                  "The 'right' events still leave much to be desired." - Patrick Lewis

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                  • #10
                    Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                    Anybody catch the part about the Communist Party Leadership Assoc. ? Geeesh! :confused_
                    [SIZE=2][B]Mark Mason[/B][/SIZE] :cool:
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                    • #11
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                      If you look carefully,you can see one holding a beer bong.They're just a bunch of rich kids who think mommy and daddy will take care of them for the rest of their life.Reality will soon hit those little b*****ds.I'm glad I'm going to a small lib. arts college with no frats.
                      Cullen Smith
                      Bluegrass Rifles
                      Cullen Smith
                      South Union Guard

                      "Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite, and furthermore always carry a small snake"~W.C. Fields

                      "When I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey; and when I drink water, I drink water."~Michaleen Flynn [I]The Quiet Man[/I]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                        The loss of an original piece is sad, but these idiots should be prosecuted. I see little value in the Greek organizations anyway so revoke their charter and burn the house down. Just goes to show you that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to procreate as the gene pool continues to worsen in future generations. :D

                        The up side is no one was injured due to stupidity, the down side is we'll see some lawmaker push forward a bill that all display cannons have the muzzles filled and someone else will suggest that all pieces used by reenactors be secured so as to prevent tampering.

                        You spend 90% of your time watching and cleaning up after the 10%.

                        My $ .02.

                        s/f

                        DJM
                        Dan McLean

                        Cpl

                        Failed Battery Mess

                        Bty F, 1st PA Lt Arty
                        (AKA LtCol USMC)

                        [URL]http://www.batteryf.cjb.net[/URL]

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                        • #13
                          Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                          Originally posted by BishopLynch
                          This is what college is all about these days. Dont go to school to learn....just party, get drunk, sleep around, and pull stupid pranks. Who cares? Its mom and dads money. Just as long as you get that diploma nothing else matters. Scary what our country has turned into. They have little or no respect for anything at all anymore. They ruin college for those who are there to really learn and have good clean fun.
                          Actually, the party atmosphere at Mizzou (University of Missouri-Columbia for you non-Tiger fans) has been in decline since the late 80's. Kegs were banned from fraternity houses in 1990 and many are now dry. The pledge period at most houses is now only a few weeks, as opposed to the semester of years past. As for the overall drunken debauchery at college, complaints of such behavior have been noted since the middle ages: A father wrote to his son, a student at the university in Paris, "I have recently learned that you live dissolutely, preferring play to work, and strumming your guitar while others are at their studies." C. Warren Hollister "Medieval Europe: A Short History," p. 293 (John Wiley & Sons, NY 1982).

                          I found it interesting that the KA's national office stated that they don't allow firearms or weapons on house property - that cannon has been there since at least since my father was a freshman in 1951. As for the "cannon" being an original, I never got a close look at it, but my father remembers it "looking like a stove pipe painted black, not like a real Civil War cannon." I wonder what the heck they did to it to cause that kind of damage - those pieces of metal flew across half of their front yard and a four lane street before hitting the apartment building.

                          As an aside, the name "Tigers," currently used for MU sports teams, was the name of the local home guard company during the Civil War. I once saw a guy at an MU-KU game wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with "Remember Quantrill, Burn Lawrence!" Good times, good times.

                          Charles D. Hoskins
                          University of Missouri, Class of 1991
                          Charles D. Hoskins
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                          Member, Company of Military Historians
                          Member, CWPT
                          Washington Historical Society
                          Board Member, MCWRA

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                          • #14
                            Re: Civil War Cannon destroyed by frat prank

                            Pards,

                            While I agree that these fellows made an incredibly stupid mistake, some of us are perhaps being a bit self-righteous. I, for one, did some pretty stupid stuff while inebriated during my college years and guess what? My parents weren't paying for it, I did very well in school, and was fully aware of the impact of college on my future life. In other words, please don't condemn an entire generation of young people based on the isolated example of these particularly exceptional idiots. It does not flatter us to turn such a news item into generation bashing. Lord knows there are plenty of negative things to say about the boomers as well.

                            On a related note, there is also a bit of irony to this story. In some ways, I think that old cannon might have enjoyed its last hurrah as it rained shrapnel down on a Chinese communist ping-pong game :) Now THAT'S a red scare!

                            -Tad
                            Tad Salyards
                            Mpls, MN - 33d Wisconsin

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                            • #15
                              Talk about bone heads!!

                              Read about this guy. He will be next in the headlines.

                              Jim Mayo
                              Portsmouth Rifles, Company G, 9th Va. Inf.

                              CW Show and Tell Site
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